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vlad321 on 24 November 2009
Ail said:
vlad321 said:
Ail said:
vlad321 said:
Ail said:
vlad321 said:
Squilliam said:

I tend to believe Joker454 from beyond3d.com when he says that hes seen data from a publisher friend about many games which failed to make money and they were critically acclaimed PC games and he talked about games which were 90% completed which were never published due to a lack of expected return unless they could also release a console version.

To be honest on the other hand publishers should stop being tardy bitches and release the data which proves the damage that they say pirates are causing. Noone takes the executives of movie/music publishers seriously because they appear to be making huge quantites of money. So yes, please publishers if you are serious about this then release some fucking data so people can actually sympathise with you for once.

Im sorry if I offended anyone with my swear words!

I think they don't have the data and just like to blame someone else as to why they aren't making money, so that if they do publish their statistics everyone will realize they just made shitty business decisions instead of other being to blame.

or more likely pirates would keep claiming as usual ' but piracy does not hurt sales ! None of those pirated copies would have been sales anyway !'

Like those 500k or so with modded 360 that just got banned of XboxLive...( I'm sorry but if you went through the trouble of modding your console you know the risks so you most likely have more than a couple pirated games and I don't really believe without access to those you woudn't have bought any game at all..)

Well hell, show me the numbers that it does and I'll shut up, until then it's like the Loch Ness monster. I'm sure you believe in that too though...

 

Last time I gave you the pirated numbers for DemiGod on the first week of the release you hardly shut up, you just made up a bunch of excuses....

Just go back to playing your pirated games and stop trolling this forum...

80% in the first weekend? I wonder how many regions the game was released for, how many of those pirates just didnt have access to a legal copy, couldn't afford 20% of their income for a game, or whether that 80% is still true. I would have assumed we would have heard from Stardock again if the piracy continued to be so bad. Strangely, we have not.

@Jereel

You didn't prvide ANY numbers, your whole"statistics" was a quote form the PR of Acivisiono talking about COD4. If that's statistics then you might as well start believeing in Big Foot too. Also again, if you don't want to go with cost, I wonder how many of those top pirating countries even had a way to get their legal games in a convenient way. If anything it's on the backs of publishers to figure out a way to give people a convenient way to get their games. Piracy is a sign of discontent, not crime, some companies manage with it just fine, most apparently cannot.

 

As I already pointed you ( by the way didn't you say you would shut up ?) the game was available for digital download the day of its release at a cheaper price than retail.. So the argument about game not being released in retail in certain countries fails HARDCORE....( seeing how every other world coming out of your mouth is Steam, how can you keep arguing that people pirate because no retail release in their area ?)

You do know you can limit digital download by regions right?



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

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STEKSTAV on 24 November 2009

It was also available for digital download a week before release.. not on the PC though.



vlad321 on 24 November 2009
STEKSTAV said:
It was also available for digital download a week before release.. not on the PC though.

That too.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

Ail on 24 November 2009
vlad321 said:
STEKSTAV said:
It was also available for digital download a week before release.. not on the PC though.

That too.

The game only released on the PC, so not sure what that comment is about...



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Ail on 24 November 2009
vlad321 said:
Ail said:
vlad321 said:
Ail said:
vlad321 said:
Ail said:
vlad321 said:
Squilliam said:

I tend to believe Joker454 from beyond3d.com when he says that hes seen data from a publisher friend about many games which failed to make money and they were critically acclaimed PC games and he talked about games which were 90% completed which were never published due to a lack of expected return unless they could also release a console version.

To be honest on the other hand publishers should stop being tardy bitches and release the data which proves the damage that they say pirates are causing. Noone takes the executives of movie/music publishers seriously because they appear to be making huge quantites of money. So yes, please publishers if you are serious about this then release some fucking data so people can actually sympathise with you for once.

Im sorry if I offended anyone with my swear words!

I think they don't have the data and just like to blame someone else as to why they aren't making money, so that if they do publish their statistics everyone will realize they just made shitty business decisions instead of other being to blame.

or more likely pirates would keep claiming as usual ' but piracy does not hurt sales ! None of those pirated copies would have been sales anyway !'

Like those 500k or so with modded 360 that just got banned of XboxLive...( I'm sorry but if you went through the trouble of modding your console you know the risks so you most likely have more than a couple pirated games and I don't really believe without access to those you woudn't have bought any game at all..)

Well hell, show me the numbers that it does and I'll shut up, until then it's like the Loch Ness monster. I'm sure you believe in that too though...

 

Last time I gave you the pirated numbers for DemiGod on the first week of the release you hardly shut up, you just made up a bunch of excuses....

Just go back to playing your pirated games and stop trolling this forum...

80% in the first weekend? I wonder how many regions the game was released for, how many of those pirates just didnt have access to a legal copy, couldn't afford 20% of their income for a game, or whether that 80% is still true. I would have assumed we would have heard from Stardock again if the piracy continued to be so bad. Strangely, we have not.

@Jereel

You didn't prvide ANY numbers, your whole"statistics" was a quote form the PR of Acivisiono talking about COD4. If that's statistics then you might as well start believeing in Big Foot too. Also again, if you don't want to go with cost, I wonder how many of those top pirating countries even had a way to get their legal games in a convenient way. If anything it's on the backs of publishers to figure out a way to give people a convenient way to get their games. Piracy is a sign of discontent, not crime, some companies manage with it just fine, most apparently cannot.

 

As I already pointed you ( by the way didn't you say you would shut up ?) the game was available for digital download the day of its release at a cheaper price than retail.. So the argument about game not being released in retail in certain countries fails HARDCORE....( seeing how every other world coming out of your mouth is Steam, how can you keep arguing that people pirate because no retail release in their area ?)

You do know you can limit digital download by regions right?

Yep but it wasn't limited.

Try again....



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

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shio on 24 November 2009
Ail said:
vlad321 said:
Ail said:
vlad321 said:
Squilliam said:

I tend to believe Joker454 from beyond3d.com when he says that hes seen data from a publisher friend about many games which failed to make money and they were critically acclaimed PC games and he talked about games which were 90% completed which were never published due to a lack of expected return unless they could also release a console version.

To be honest on the other hand publishers should stop being tardy bitches and release the data which proves the damage that they say pirates are causing. Noone takes the executives of movie/music publishers seriously because they appear to be making huge quantites of money. So yes, please publishers if you are serious about this then release some fucking data so people can actually sympathise with you for once.

Im sorry if I offended anyone with my swear words!

I think they don't have the data and just like to blame someone else as to why they aren't making money, so that if they do publish their statistics everyone will realize they just made shitty business decisions instead of other being to blame.

or more likely pirates would keep claiming as usual ' but piracy does not hurt sales ! None of those pirated copies would have been sales anyway !'

Like those 500k or so with modded 360 that just got banned of XboxLive...( I'm sorry but if you went through the trouble of modding your console you know the risks so you most likely have more than a couple pirated games and I don't really believe without access to those you woudn't have bought any game at all..)

Well hell, show me the numbers that it does and I'll shut up, until then it's like the Loch Ness monster. I'm sure you believe in that too though...

 

Last time I gave you the pirated numbers for DemiGod on the first week of the release you hardly shut up, you just made up a bunch of excuses....

Just go back to playing your pirated games and stop trolling this forum...

The only visible impact from pirates in Demigod was that they overloaded the servers. We cannot know how many sales were lost on Demigod.

Even if piracy rate was 99.99%, it doesn't matter. Why? It's because as long as PC games keep selling and are successful, they will still be made. What's the difference if the piracy rate is 99% or 1% if games sell the same?

What we do know is that PC gaming revenue keeps increasing every year, and healthily. PC gaming revenue increased 18%, despite the decrease of retail. PC games are also more profitable due to digital distribution and other venues. And this year PC seems to be increasing while consoles are going to decline revenue in 2009.



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vlad321 on 24 November 2009
Ail said:
vlad321 said:
STEKSTAV said:
It was also available for digital download a week before release.. not on the PC though.

That too.

The game only released on the PC, so not sure what that comment is about...

It meas people didn't have to wait a week to get their hands on the game legally. Another failure of publishers.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

STEKSTAV on 24 November 2009
Ail said:
vlad321 said:
STEKSTAV said:
It was also available for digital download a week before release.. not on the PC though.

That too.

The game only released on the PC, so not sure what that comment is about...


Say what? What game are we talking about?



Ail on 24 November 2009
STEKSTAV said:
Ail said:
vlad321 said:
STEKSTAV said:
It was also available for digital download a week before release.. not on the PC though.

That too.

The game only released on the PC, so not sure what that comment is about...


Say what? What game are we talking about?

Demi God..



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Ail on 24 November 2009
vlad321 said:
Ail said:
vlad321 said:
STEKSTAV said:
It was also available for digital download a week before release.. not on the PC though.

That too.

The game only released on the PC, so not sure what that comment is about...

It meas people didn't have to wait a week to get their hands on the game legally. Another failure of publishers.

It means before quoting someone and agreeing with him you might want to check he's actually talking of the same thing you are, the dude isn't even talking about Demi God...



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !