There is no grey area. Your either capitalist ...or your a commie

And the government has been involved since the Stone Age.  The government is necessary for any type of economy, and many of you free market proponets are biting the hand that feeds you.

Mixed economy is a meaningless term.

Every country currently already has a "mixed economy".

There is basically Free Market with regulations and minor nationalzation

Nearly fully nationalized (like communism.)

Or about half and half... like what the Nazis did.

The biggest issue with 3 is... it's arbitrary most of the time.

That is so much bullshit, and I hope you are only trying to bullshit others rather than having successfully bullshitted yourself.

You can make the valid argument that capitalism gives people the opportunity to succeed, but in no way does it give people equal opportunities.  On the contrary, socialism strives to give people equal opportunity, with programs like socialized education, while capitalism promotes unequal opportunity.  Surely, no sane person would make the argument that the son of a million dollar a year salary CEO who goes to private school and will inherit his father's business with he graduates has an equal opportunity with the son of a single mother living in the ghetto who is working at Wal-Mart to pay his way through college.

Best way to make any idea sound bad - say the Nazi's did it.

It's the only actual example of it I know.  I would of used another example if i could of thought of one.  Can you come up with another example that people could look at historically if they want to know more how that style of economy is run?  If so feel free to mention it.  The Nazi economy actually did quite well until it went all out war on people.  Though that may of just been due to the gearing up for the giant all out war.  The economy of Nazi germany is actually an interesting topic of study.

They basically were the only people who supported a "third way" that was specifically not capitalism or communism.

Which would be you know... more drastic then free market with regulations.

@Kasz. Social Democracies like a large part of Western/Northern Europe? Those are partially socialised economies.

Or if you want more Socialism in that equation, try states like Venezuela or other countries in the current left-wing movement in Latin America.

Or if you want to go even further, the PRC has a market Socialist economy.

There are currently states all the way between pure communism and strong (but not pure) capitalism.


Nazi Germany isn't great to use for any economic example anyway, as their economic policy was never very prominent amongst their ideals.

Those are all still Free market economies in western europe.

China and Venezuela are poor choices because they're governments regulate based on protectionism.  That's not really going to be the same kind of change people are talking about there.

As for their economic policy never being prominent amongst their ideals... what does that have to do with anything?  They're economy follows those ideals and it's the best one to study based on it.

It means that their economic policy was never fully defined. Unlike the Italian fascists the Nazi's never really said what they were going to do with their economy. Their economy also shifted markedly over the years they were in power depending on the political climate.

As such it's not really possible to find an economic model which matches that of Nazi Germany because Nazi Germany didn't really have one.


I don't really understand what you're asking for, the economies I gave you as examples range between partially socialised (ie. government run schools, healthcare etc.) to the much more socialised (government runs much of the businesses and production). What are you looking for?

What the people in the poll are looking for.  Something New.

I'm talking about the people who say "It is fatally flawed a new system is needed."

The Chinese and Venzulian economies don't really match that.

Additionally... it should be noted that China was hit a lot harder by the economic crisis then they let on.  It's just easier for them to "hide" their numbers. 

The truth... the real truth is... no matter how far you go down the street on that... nothing is going to save you from economic downturns... even protectionism like the chinese way.

That is unless you intentionally slow economic growth.  Which i think people would end up liking even less.