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MAFKKA said:
Animation-wise, it is a bit clunky.

It's an RPG. They are wearing weighty army and heavy weaponry, of course its going to be clunky. Thats quite a criticism which should've been obvious to the naked eye about now.



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selnor said:
Solid_Raiden said:
selnor said:
Solid_Raiden said:
selnor said:
Please, how the hell are people now comparing to completely different genres? Next comparison Fifa 10 vs Halo 3. LOL. People need to have a new perspective on gaming. It has been lost.


lmao coming from the guy who brings up a 360 game in almost every ps3 game he's ever entered. We can compare it to Gears if you prefer. I just compared it to Uncharted 2 because it was the most recent game with that style combat. And if you can't compare two third person games which use cover and guns in a simular playstyle then I guess no game can be compared period to you people. Oh nos! I can'ts be comparingz the haloz with the codz because haloz is in the spaces!

You are makinng yourself look foolish. I have VERY rarely been the person to bring up a 360 game in a PS3 thread. I will defend a good game if it is already brought up, but I dont bring them up. Unless I make a thread purposely for that reason.

As for your take on comparing the combat of Uncharted to Mass Effect. It is OBVIOUS you havent played ME otherwise you would not have made the statement.

Mass Effect using guns is 10% of the combat system. Thats the first point.

Your stats of your character affect the fight. 2nd point.

You control 3 teamates. 3rd point.

You see a character taking cover and think it's similar. LOL. Uncharted is a great game in it's own genre. But to an RPG fan Uncharted doesnt stand a chance. Now BACK TO FECKING MASS EFFECT!

Yea, I guess I never played the game. I mean don't even think about the fact that it's in my gamer card and that I beat it twice on my other profile. :P

And none of your points have anything whatsover to do with what I stated. I stated that the combat looks clunky. Are you telling me that it's clunky because you control teammates? That's stupid. I love how everyone throws out this random shit like story, setting, blah blah blah. When all I was talking about was one fucking video and it's gameplay. Ask yourself this, did the first video in this op have a.) Third person view b.) guns and c.) a cover system? I didn't write a damn review on me2. All I did was compare the gameplay shown in the video to another game that has a gameplay similar enough to what was shown in the video. I obviously didn't compare the gameplay of an adept or any of the other classes only what was shown in the video in the op. It only has to do with the cover and shooting in those two games, and how smooth the combat and animations are in one related to the other. I didn't bring up anything else and there are no other factors. Next up your going to bring up some other factors that have absolutely nothing to do with my original post, like how you can jump in uncharted, how one is set in space and how you are a virgin. None of these things mean anything in relation to my original statements. And I don't really care about them. If anyone actually wants to make a comment that actually relates to my original comment in any kind of intelligent way then great otherwise I'm leaving this ME2 circle jerk where it's "goty or get out".

It's not a GOTY or get out thing at all. It's the fact you compared to uncomparable games. And RPG against and action adventure. The RPG has loads of other systems working when combat is in play more than just how much health a headshot takes off. You cant compare tham. Regardless of viewpoint and cover system. Thats why your getting hounded.

Oh, and what is a comparable game then? I obviously can't compare the "shooting" in the game to another shooter. I will like to point out to people again that all I was doing was comparing the shooting of two games. Not the rest of the games. So maybe I should compare the shooting in ME to Dragon Age: Origins? Yes, it's much easier to compare the sword combat of that game to the gun combat in this game. But hey, at least both are RPGs. See, how clumbsy your half logic is? You only want it compared to other rpg's but no other RPG has a combat system like ME. And the shooting and cover was the only thing I was comparing. Regardless of if there was another game with a combat system like ME though. I'd have the same complaint. If they are going to have cover in their game, it shouldn't be as clunky as this. I only pointed at U2 and Gears as prime examples of what this game should be striving for.




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Solid_Raiden said:
selnor said:
Solid_Raiden said:
selnor said:
Solid_Raiden said:
selnor said:
Please, how the hell are people now comparing to completely different genres? Next comparison Fifa 10 vs Halo 3. LOL. People need to have a new perspective on gaming. It has been lost.


lmao coming from the guy who brings up a 360 game in almost every ps3 game he's ever entered. We can compare it to Gears if you prefer. I just compared it to Uncharted 2 because it was the most recent game with that style combat. And if you can't compare two third person games which use cover and guns in a simular playstyle then I guess no game can be compared period to you people. Oh nos! I can'ts be comparingz the haloz with the codz because haloz is in the spaces!

You are makinng yourself look foolish. I have VERY rarely been the person to bring up a 360 game in a PS3 thread. I will defend a good game if it is already brought up, but I dont bring them up. Unless I make a thread purposely for that reason.

As for your take on comparing the combat of Uncharted to Mass Effect. It is OBVIOUS you havent played ME otherwise you would not have made the statement.

Mass Effect using guns is 10% of the combat system. Thats the first point.

Your stats of your character affect the fight. 2nd point.

You control 3 teamates. 3rd point.

You see a character taking cover and think it's similar. LOL. Uncharted is a great game in it's own genre. But to an RPG fan Uncharted doesnt stand a chance. Now BACK TO FECKING MASS EFFECT!

Yea, I guess I never played the game. I mean don't even think about the fact that it's in my gamer card and that I beat it twice on my other profile. :P

And none of your points have anything whatsover to do with what I stated. I stated that the combat looks clunky. Are you telling me that it's clunky because you control teammates? That's stupid. I love how everyone throws out this random shit like story, setting, blah blah blah. When all I was talking about was one fucking video and it's gameplay. Ask yourself this, did the first video in this op have a.) Third person view b.) guns and c.) a cover system? I didn't write a damn review on me2. All I did was compare the gameplay shown in the video to another game that has a gameplay similar enough to what was shown in the video. I obviously didn't compare the gameplay of an adept or any of the other classes only what was shown in the video in the op. It only has to do with the cover and shooting in those two games, and how smooth the combat and animations are in one related to the other. I didn't bring up anything else and there are no other factors. Next up your going to bring up some other factors that have absolutely nothing to do with my original post, like how you can jump in uncharted, how one is set in space and how you are a virgin. None of these things mean anything in relation to my original statements. And I don't really care about them. If anyone actually wants to make a comment that actually relates to my original comment in any kind of intelligent way then great otherwise I'm leaving this ME2 circle jerk where it's "goty or get out".

It's not a GOTY or get out thing at all. It's the fact you compared to uncomparable games. And RPG against and action adventure. The RPG has loads of other systems working when combat is in play more than just how much health a headshot takes off. You cant compare tham. Regardless of viewpoint and cover system. Thats why your getting hounded.

Oh, and what is a comparable game then? I obviously can't compare the "shooting" in the game to another shooter. I will like to point out to people again that all I was doing was comparing the shooting of two games. Not the rest of the games. So maybe I should compare the shooting in ME to Dragon Age: Origins? Yes, it's much easier to compare the sword combat of that game to the gun combat in this game. But hey, at least both are RPGs. See, how clumbsy your half logic is? You only want it compared to other rpg's but no other RPG has a combat system like ME. And the shooting and cover was the only thing I was comparing. Regardless of if there was another game with a combat system like ME though. I'd have the same complaint. If they are going to have cover in their game, it shouldn't be as clunky as this. I only pointed at U2 and Gears as prime examples of what this game should be striving for.

You could compare it to something like Fallout 3 but comparing the shooting of an rpg to an actual shooter is stupid and has no relevance like we have all been trying to tell you but you keep ignoring. The shooting in ME depends on your stats and the character type you choose where as for U2 your a pro shooter from the start with every weapon. Basically what your asking is for ME to become a 3rd person shooter.

I don't understand why it is so hard for you to understand the clear differences between a action rpg and a 3rd person shooter



                                           

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Mendicate Bias said:
Solid_Raiden said:
selnor said:
Solid_Raiden said:
selnor said:
Solid_Raiden said:
selnor said:
Please, how the hell are people now comparing to completely different genres? Next comparison Fifa 10 vs Halo 3. LOL. People need to have a new perspective on gaming. It has been lost.


lmao coming from the guy who brings up a 360 game in almost every ps3 game he's ever entered. We can compare it to Gears if you prefer. I just compared it to Uncharted 2 because it was the most recent game with that style combat. And if you can't compare two third person games which use cover and guns in a simular playstyle then I guess no game can be compared period to you people. Oh nos! I can'ts be comparingz the haloz with the codz because haloz is in the spaces!

You are makinng yourself look foolish. I have VERY rarely been the person to bring up a 360 game in a PS3 thread. I will defend a good game if it is already brought up, but I dont bring them up. Unless I make a thread purposely for that reason.

As for your take on comparing the combat of Uncharted to Mass Effect. It is OBVIOUS you havent played ME otherwise you would not have made the statement.

Mass Effect using guns is 10% of the combat system. Thats the first point.

Your stats of your character affect the fight. 2nd point.

You control 3 teamates. 3rd point.

You see a character taking cover and think it's similar. LOL. Uncharted is a great game in it's own genre. But to an RPG fan Uncharted doesnt stand a chance. Now BACK TO FECKING MASS EFFECT!

Yea, I guess I never played the game. I mean don't even think about the fact that it's in my gamer card and that I beat it twice on my other profile. :P

And none of your points have anything whatsover to do with what I stated. I stated that the combat looks clunky. Are you telling me that it's clunky because you control teammates? That's stupid. I love how everyone throws out this random shit like story, setting, blah blah blah. When all I was talking about was one fucking video and it's gameplay. Ask yourself this, did the first video in this op have a.) Third person view b.) guns and c.) a cover system? I didn't write a damn review on me2. All I did was compare the gameplay shown in the video to another game that has a gameplay similar enough to what was shown in the video. I obviously didn't compare the gameplay of an adept or any of the other classes only what was shown in the video in the op. It only has to do with the cover and shooting in those two games, and how smooth the combat and animations are in one related to the other. I didn't bring up anything else and there are no other factors. Next up your going to bring up some other factors that have absolutely nothing to do with my original post, like how you can jump in uncharted, how one is set in space and how you are a virgin. None of these things mean anything in relation to my original statements. And I don't really care about them. If anyone actually wants to make a comment that actually relates to my original comment in any kind of intelligent way then great otherwise I'm leaving this ME2 circle jerk where it's "goty or get out".

It's not a GOTY or get out thing at all. It's the fact you compared to uncomparable games. And RPG against and action adventure. The RPG has loads of other systems working when combat is in play more than just how much health a headshot takes off. You cant compare tham. Regardless of viewpoint and cover system. Thats why your getting hounded.

Oh, and what is a comparable game then? I obviously can't compare the "shooting" in the game to another shooter. I will like to point out to people again that all I was doing was comparing the shooting of two games. Not the rest of the games. So maybe I should compare the shooting in ME to Dragon Age: Origins? Yes, it's much easier to compare the sword combat of that game to the gun combat in this game. But hey, at least both are RPGs. See, how clumbsy your half logic is? You only want it compared to other rpg's but no other RPG has a combat system like ME. And the shooting and cover was the only thing I was comparing. Regardless of if there was another game with a combat system like ME though. I'd have the same complaint. If they are going to have cover in their game, it shouldn't be as clunky as this. I only pointed at U2 and Gears as prime examples of what this game should be striving for.

You could compare it to something like Fallout 3 but comparing the shooting of an rpg to an actual shooter is stupid and has no relevance like we have all been trying to tell you but you keep ignoring. The shooting in ME depends on your stats and the character type you choose where as for U2 your a pro shooter from the start with every weapon. Basically what your asking is for ME to become a 3rd person shooter.

I don't understand why it is so hard for you to understand the clear differences between a action rpg and a 3rd person shooter

So now it's more acceptable to compare a third person game to an FPS? Wow. Just wow. I guess I'm expecting too much from the internet. How in the hell am I going to compare the cover system and gameplay of ME2 which has third person shooting in it to an fps rpg? lmao. Guess I'm supose to imagine what a cover system in Fallout 3 would looks like and compare it. LMMFAO this is just too much. The funniest part is that I was talking about animations, movement, and mechanics of a shooting sequence and no one can understand just what the hell that means.




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Solid_Raiden said:
Mendicate Bias said:
Solid_Raiden said:
selnor said:
Solid_Raiden said:
selnor said:
Solid_Raiden said:
selnor said:
Please, how the hell are people now comparing to completely different genres? Next comparison Fifa 10 vs Halo 3. LOL. People need to have a new perspective on gaming. It has been lost.


lmao coming from the guy who brings up a 360 game in almost every ps3 game he's ever entered. We can compare it to Gears if you prefer. I just compared it to Uncharted 2 because it was the most recent game with that style combat. And if you can't compare two third person games which use cover and guns in a simular playstyle then I guess no game can be compared period to you people. Oh nos! I can'ts be comparingz the haloz with the codz because haloz is in the spaces!

You are makinng yourself look foolish. I have VERY rarely been the person to bring up a 360 game in a PS3 thread. I will defend a good game if it is already brought up, but I dont bring them up. Unless I make a thread purposely for that reason.

As for your take on comparing the combat of Uncharted to Mass Effect. It is OBVIOUS you havent played ME otherwise you would not have made the statement.

Mass Effect using guns is 10% of the combat system. Thats the first point.

Your stats of your character affect the fight. 2nd point.

You control 3 teamates. 3rd point.

You see a character taking cover and think it's similar. LOL. Uncharted is a great game in it's own genre. But to an RPG fan Uncharted doesnt stand a chance. Now BACK TO FECKING MASS EFFECT!

Yea, I guess I never played the game. I mean don't even think about the fact that it's in my gamer card and that I beat it twice on my other profile. :P

And none of your points have anything whatsover to do with what I stated. I stated that the combat looks clunky. Are you telling me that it's clunky because you control teammates? That's stupid. I love how everyone throws out this random shit like story, setting, blah blah blah. When all I was talking about was one fucking video and it's gameplay. Ask yourself this, did the first video in this op have a.) Third person view b.) guns and c.) a cover system? I didn't write a damn review on me2. All I did was compare the gameplay shown in the video to another game that has a gameplay similar enough to what was shown in the video. I obviously didn't compare the gameplay of an adept or any of the other classes only what was shown in the video in the op. It only has to do with the cover and shooting in those two games, and how smooth the combat and animations are in one related to the other. I didn't bring up anything else and there are no other factors. Next up your going to bring up some other factors that have absolutely nothing to do with my original post, like how you can jump in uncharted, how one is set in space and how you are a virgin. None of these things mean anything in relation to my original statements. And I don't really care about them. If anyone actually wants to make a comment that actually relates to my original comment in any kind of intelligent way then great otherwise I'm leaving this ME2 circle jerk where it's "goty or get out".

It's not a GOTY or get out thing at all. It's the fact you compared to uncomparable games. And RPG against and action adventure. The RPG has loads of other systems working when combat is in play more than just how much health a headshot takes off. You cant compare tham. Regardless of viewpoint and cover system. Thats why your getting hounded.

Oh, and what is a comparable game then? I obviously can't compare the "shooting" in the game to another shooter. I will like to point out to people again that all I was doing was comparing the shooting of two games. Not the rest of the games. So maybe I should compare the shooting in ME to Dragon Age: Origins? Yes, it's much easier to compare the sword combat of that game to the gun combat in this game. But hey, at least both are RPGs. See, how clumbsy your half logic is? You only want it compared to other rpg's but no other RPG has a combat system like ME. And the shooting and cover was the only thing I was comparing. Regardless of if there was another game with a combat system like ME though. I'd have the same complaint. If they are going to have cover in their game, it shouldn't be as clunky as this. I only pointed at U2 and Gears as prime examples of what this game should be striving for.

You could compare it to something like Fallout 3 but comparing the shooting of an rpg to an actual shooter is stupid and has no relevance like we have all been trying to tell you but you keep ignoring. The shooting in ME depends on your stats and the character type you choose where as for U2 your a pro shooter from the start with every weapon. Basically what your asking is for ME to become a 3rd person shooter.

I don't understand why it is so hard for you to understand the clear differences between a action rpg and a 3rd person shooter

So now it's more acceptable to compare a third person game to an FPS? Wow. Just wow. I guess I'm expecting too much from the internet. How in the hell am I going to compare the cover system and gameplay of ME2 which has third person shooting in it to an fps rpg? lmao. Guess I'm supose to imagine what a cover system in Fallout 3 would looks like and compare it. LMMFAO this is just too much. The funniest part is that I was talking about animations, movement, and mechanics of a shooting sequence and no one can understand just what the hell that means.

You clearly don't understand what an action rpg or "shooter" rpg is or lack the capacity to understand so I'm just going to stop arguing with you. The fact that you think the shooting mechanics should be the same for games like ME and GoW is like saying the driving mechanics for Mario Kart should be more like GT. Don't expect to make wrong statements and not get called out on it and then make a huge hissy fit over it.



                                           

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S.T.A.G.E. said:
MAFKKA said:
Animation-wise, it is a bit clunky.

It's an RPG. They are wearing weighty army and heavy weaponry, of course its going to be clunky. Thats quite a criticism which should've been obvious to the naked eye about now.

My naked eye spotted the clunkyness when i went into cover. Not when running around in my fancy armor.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
MAFKKA said:
Animation-wise, it is a bit clunky.

It's an RPG. They are wearing weighty army and heavy weaponry, of course its going to be clunky. Thats quite a criticism which should've been obvious to the naked eye about now.

so if I wear really light armor in that game, carry pistols, and use implant powers instead, will the animation all of a sudden be not clunky? =P I don't wanna give you shit S.T.A.G.E., so stop bring it to my attention -_^b.



First Mass Effect kinda took me by suprise on how well I was gonna like it. This one looks to be better in every way.



         

Why do we have to argue guys.
And cmon, why the hell do some of u just notice small flaws that noone really cares about?

Face facts, u dont wanna miss it