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JaggedSac on 06 November 2009
mrstickball said:
Jagged -

There's a yes and no answer to that.

The best answer to qualms about Nuclear power is given by Russel Brand - a former anti-nuclear activist and very popular 'green' author. He is about as environmentally-friendly as one can get, but he is now a proponent of nuclear power as a way to be green while meeting challenging economic factors.

You can watch his fantastic 1hr presentation on the green movement and nuclear power here:
http://fora.tv/2009/10/09/Stewart_Brand_Rethinking_Green#fullprogram

Cool, I will have to check out that video.  But I hope it isn't the Russel Brand I am thinking of(actor/comedian). 



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famousringo on 06 November 2009
mrstickball said:
I was actually thinking about the similarity of this with the activists in America that hate nuclear power, despite the fact it's one of the most environmentally-friendly power sources available. My point is that many of these activists will oppose something not based on logic, but merely on passion.

Can't argue with that. Logic doesn't motivate like passion does. Environmentalists, animal rights activists, tea-baggers... they all have some valid points to make, but reason and compromise take a back seat because it's the simplicity of strident radicalism that grabs headlines and puts boots on the protest line.

I wonder which is a bigger factor in turning people away from the process: The tedium of a reasoned debate or the divisiveness of a radical shouting match. Seems like there's no way to win there.

@ JaggedSac

If you accept the idea of anthropogenic global warming, the risk of a couple Chernobyls pales in comparison to the risk of worldwide climate change. The idea of civilization giving up on cheap energy altogether just isn't going to happen at this point, so I'll take the one that doesn't have a chance of provoking a global mass extinction event or massive starvation and geopolitical unrest. Nuclear might not be the best solution, but it's a compromise that reduces risks and I don't think stalling for a better deal is pragmatic.



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mrstickball on 06 November 2009

Stewart Brand, my apologies.



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NJ5 on 06 November 2009

So what do they propose be done with the meat? Like a funeral or something?

But really, serious question (the first one).



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JaggedSac on 06 November 2009
mrstickball said:
Stewart Brand, my apologies.

I know, I saw in the link.  I was just busting your chops.

 

I am all for nuclear power.  I was just saying that I see where some people can be wary of it.



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highwaystar101 on 06 November 2009

I don't think any logical thinking person would protest against nuclear power.

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I think this is a good idea (energy from meat), don't get me wrong, I think it should be done. I just find it creepy too.



NJ5 on 06 November 2009

I don't find it creepy... but even if I did I'd still support it.

There are many things I find creepy but should be done. Like autopsies.



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SamuelRSmith on 06 November 2009

As a vegetarian (well, pescitarian), I'd like to posit the following:

Fuck the animals, I want cheap energy.



trashleg on 06 November 2009

its only a little bit creepy.

i mean, they have to get rid of the meat one way or another anyway, if they incinerate it its still gonna release energy so they're as well to harness the energy clean fuel, woohoo! only dirty in the blood-on-your-hands way!



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JaggedSac on 06 November 2009
SamuelRSmith said:
As a vegetarian (well, pescitarian), I'd like to posit the following:

Fuck the animals, I want cheap energy.

Thats an entirely different issue.