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MontanaHatchet said:
Well, it's all fine until they poke at YOUR game.

Then, you've got a problem.

 You are correct, sir. Funny how that works.

I still don't understand how people can get so upset over these reviews, as all they are are opinions of a game. If you have a different opinion than someone who writes reviews, regardless of what they are, then congratulations, you are part of the  98% of society that has a slight to major difference of opinion.



 

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It's not GS' general reviewing of games that bothers me, it's the major GS reviews that get me. They "flopped" MP3, LoZ: TP, and now R&C by System Wars Standards, yet all of the major 360 games seem to get by unscathed. Gears of War? Halo 3? Bioshock? All 9.0+.

Prior to Halo 3's release, there had been many rumblings of bias towards MS, but most people didn't take it too seriously. The vast majority of people, including myself, thought that Halo 3 would be the next big flop, since GS' reviews had become so critical as of late, and the fact that Halo 3, after all, was just another Halo. Many figured that Halo 3 would suffer the same fate as MP3 and TP (and later R&C), a lowering of the score for being too similar to it's predecessors. When Halo 3 came out as a 9.5, fanboys from all sides gave a resounding, "WTF?" The R&C review only confirmed the fact that Halo 3 was overrated by the "new" Gamespot standards.

It's the inconsistency of GS' reviews that gets me. The spread of 2 whole points between games that are both very good (R&C and Halo 3) casts into doubt all of their review scores. Is a 6.5 that much worse than a 7.5? It makes the entire review system rather pointless.



GS rates crappy games high, they rated conan 7.5 the same as RC, if anyone has played the demo of Conan which came to the PSN a couple weeks ago you would see that the game deserves no more then a 3, the game looks and plays like an original xbox game. Images and textures flash in and out, the lighting and facial animation looks like an early PS2 game.



Microspot, simple as that. You must be a blind GS member not to notice at how 360 games getting much better treatment especially comparing to the Wii.

They are already complaining about Brawl when everyone else is raving about it. How they gave MP3 a 8.5 and the average is well above that.



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Is this from gamerankings? Because I heard that gamespot owns it..

I  dont know how taht could be correct either, even if it is, that e3 demonstaration with uncharted made me doubt gamespot.



 

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Dude, even if they did own it... it's straight raw data from review sites. So... what's your point?

Microsoft could own a glass of water, that doesn't mean if someone from sony drinks it, it's suddenly not going to be water.



Freestyler said:
Microspot, simple as that. You must be a blind GS member not to notice at how 360 games getting much better treatment especially comparing to the Wii.

They are already complaining about Brawl when everyone else is raving about it. How they gave MP3 a 8.5 and the average is well above that.

Read the above raw review stats where it's shown that infact PS3 and Xbox 360 games get rated nearly equally as far as industry average goes.



makingmusic476 said:

It's not GS' general reviewing of games that bothers me, it's the major GS reviews that get me. They "flopped" MP3, LoZ: TP, and now R&C by System Wars Standards, yet all of the major 360 games seem to get by unscathed. Gears of War? Halo 3? Bioshock? All 9.0+.

Prior to Halo 3's release, there had been many rumblings of bias towards MS, but most people didn't take it too seriously. The vast majority of people, including myself, thought that Halo 3 would be the next big flop, since GS' reviews had become so critical as of late, and the fact that Halo 3, after all, was just another Halo. Many figured that Halo 3 would suffer the same fate as MP3 and TP (and later R&C), a lowering of the score for being too similar to it's predecessors. When Halo 3 came out as a 9.5, fanboys from all sides gave a resounding, "WTF?" The R&C review only confirmed the fact that Halo 3 was overrated by the "new" Gamespot standards.

It's the inconsistency of GS' reviews that gets me. The spread of 2 whole points between games that are both very good (R&C and Halo 3) casts into doubt all of their review scores. Is a 6.5 that much worse than a 7.5? It makes the entire review system rather pointless.


Except... there is no statistical bias to Halo 3, if you want to say they tend to lower big games for the trafic, yeah i'll lisen to that arguement.

As for why they wouldn't do that for Halo 3?  It's got nothing to do with a perceived alliance with Sony.  More likely it has to do with the fact that Halo 3 is just too big.

Halo is just too big of a franchise for gamespot to try and pull that.  It's the same with Mario Galaxy, and to a lesser extent final fantasy. 



BrainBoxLtd said:
Astrodust said:
You guys are forming your oppinion having never played the game. At least Gamespot played it. They are below the average for sure but I don't think they are biased against Sony. They just aren't handing out high marks. They gave Metroid an 8.5 I think.

Yes, they also gave Def Jam Icon an 8.1, Perfect Dark Zero a 9, and Wario Ware Smooth Moves a 9.1. So we can all see how extremely reliable and consistent they are in thier scoring process. =P


 Firstly, reviews are not comparable between consoles. Therefore your comparision to Def Jam Ico and PDZ to the likes of Wario Ware Smooth Moves and Metroid.

 Secondly, reviews are not comparable over time. Therefore, if there's even a reasonable time between the release of two games on the same console then the review scores are not going to be comparable.

Why would anyone complain about a lack of consistency when a) consistency is logically not possible; and b) reviews are not designed to be consistent over time and between consoles? It seems rather silly to me.



 
Debating with fanboys, its not
all that dissimilar to banging ones
head against a wall 

The Gamespot review is unacceptable. The reviewer seems to have no idea of what constitutes a fun-for-all-ages action platformer. "The game is too easy" -- what was he expecting, Ninja Gaiden Ultra Turbo? "The game has an identity crisis" -- another unbelievable howler. This is right up there with the numbskull king saying to Mozart in "Amadeus", "There were too many notes."

I've played the RC demo, and the gameplay simply rocks. Crisp controls, responsive animation, great weapons balance, engaging challenges, and some quality voice-acting and over-the-top humor. I'll be getting the game soon, but the reviews are unanimous on one point, namely that Insomniac maintained this level of quality throughout the rest of the game.

I don't expect miracles from the game press. All I expect is that people who are paid to review games should DO THEIR JOB. That means understanding the genre and game they are reviewing, and comparing it with other games in its genre. If you hate RTS games, please don't review RTS titles.