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I don't know what's more scary, that they are doing this or that most of you readily accept it and think it's fine. I have little doubt that is Microsoft doing the same; that doesn't make it right.

This isn't the same as Amazon logging your purchases. This is a whole new level. Even if you don't realize it, you have a right to privacy.

This is total surveillance, and you have no idea what they do with this data, and for how long they keep it. They listen and store your conversations, log the movies you watch and games you play, run credit checks on you. How can you not be scared by this?



"Well certainly with the Xbox 360, we had some challenges at the launch. Once we identified that we took control of it. We wanted to do it right by our customers. Our customers are very important to us." -Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb (10/2013). Note: RRoD was fixed with the Jasper-revision 3 years after the launch of 360

"People don't pay attention to a lot of the details."-Yusuf Mehdi explaining why Xbone DRM scheme would succeed

"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360,”-Don Mattrick

"The region locking of the 3DS wasn't done for profits on games"-MDMAlliance

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It's not like they're asking me for my SSN yet.



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Damnyouall said:
I don't know what's more scary, that they are doing this or that most of you readily accept it and think it's fine. I have little doubt that is Microsoft doing the same; that doesn't make it right.

This isn't the same as Amazon logging your purchases. This is a whole new level. Even if you don't realize it, you have a right to privacy.

This is total surveillance, and you have no idea what they do with this data, and for how long they keep it. They listen and store your conversations, log the movies you watch and games you play, run credit checks on you. How can you not be scared by this?

i'm guessing you don't use Google then

http://www.google.com/intl/en/privacypolicy.html



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I don't think it is wrong, even Nintendo Wii tells you how many minutes you spent playing a certain game.

- This way they can target ads for you (when it is supported).
- They can redirect resources to the features people use most
- They can tell what games are being played most and predict trends.



 

Crap!!!! Time spent looking up hot custom themes has been exposed!!!

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KylieDog said:
I think this is how they sent me the MAG beta code. I didn't apply for it anywhere, enter a contest or pre-order for a code.


Just got it out of the blue in my e-mail. I do game a lot online.

Come to think of it, my Killzone 2 beta code came out of the blue too. It was one heck of a suprise when you're discussing it on the forums and out of nowhere you get a beta code in your inbox.



this thread failed before you even finished typing in the OT.

It's sad you even feel like that completely anonymous information is any kind of a deal, let alone a big deal.

'SONY: OMG! Phrancheyez PLAYED UNCHARTED 2 FOR 3 HOURS! ALERT DA GOV'MENT! HE ALSO GOT ON YOUPORN! CALL AND TELL HIS NEIGHBORS!'

Get outa here...this is dumb.



twesterm said:

I'll ask you what I ask anyone that brings this kind of stuff up: what are you doing that you're so scared they're watching you?

Do you think there's actually some guy that sits there and logs each guy that watches porn on his PS3?

It shouldn't matter if he is a unibomber.  

 

A lot of people feel like once some of your rights are circumvented by governments etc.. it just opens up more and more things that can and will be taken away from you.  This isn't exactly the same thing but once people accept this type of stuff it will just encourage these large companies to do more stuff.  And I for one don't like it at all.  But what can we do about it if everyone has the attitude that it won't hurt you unless your doing something illegal, immoral, or wrong.  IT DOES HURT YOU!  You just don't realize it......



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damndl0ser said:
twesterm said:

I'll ask you what I ask anyone that brings this kind of stuff up: what are you doing that you're so scared they're watching you?

Do you think there's actually some guy that sits there and logs each guy that watches porn on his PS3?

It shouldn't matter if he is a unibomber.  

 

A lot of people feel like once some of your rights are circumvented by governments etc.. it just opens up more and more things that can and will be taken away from you.  This isn't exactly the same thing but once people accept this type of stuff it will just encourage these large companies to do more stuff.  And I for one don't like it at all.  But what can we do about it if everyone has the attitude that it won't hurt you unless your doing something illegal, immoral, or wrong.  IT DOES HURT YOU!  You just don't realize it......

No you don't understand. If you own something, and you don't want people doing certain things in it, or with it, you can get them to AGREE to certain conditions. You are not forcing them to agree, however if they don't you have full right not to let them use it.

This is not a "GOVERNMENT TAKING MY FREEDOM AWAY!!" this is an example of "BAH I'M AN IDIOT I DIDN'T READ WHAT I AGREED TO AND I DON'T AGREE WITH IT!!". It's sad really.

You can't take away basic rights, however you can get people to agree that they won't do certain things while in your building, or using your service. PSN is a service, they don't want people misusing it, they also want to improve it, so they get people to agree to this, so they can be held accountable for their actions. If they didn't have a privacy polacy you could go on PSN and yell stuff like "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER!" etc etc etc just whatever you like, or "hack"(AKA glitch) a game without being punished. Saying nigger, fuck, shit, piss etc is aloud no matter what you do, and that would give it a bad name. So you agree to not say those things, you are in essense giving up your freedoms while using this service, but those freedoms are not being taken from you. You can still say those things and no legal action can be taken agaisnt you, just revoked from the service, AKA banned.



Phrancheyez said:
this thread failed before you even finished typing in the OT.

It's sad you even feel like that completely anonymous information is any kind of a deal, let alone a big deal.

'SONY: OMG! Phrancheyez PLAYED UNCHARTED 2 FOR 3 HOURS! ALERT DA GOV'MENT! HE ALSO GOT ON YOUPORN! CALL AND TELL HIS NEIGHBORS!'

Get outa here...this is dumb.

Where in the terms of service you failed to read/understand does it say the information stored is stored/used anonymously? (Hint: It doesn't).

Complaining about having your privacy violated certainly isn't "dumb". Your behaviour on the other hand...



"Well certainly with the Xbox 360, we had some challenges at the launch. Once we identified that we took control of it. We wanted to do it right by our customers. Our customers are very important to us." -Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb (10/2013). Note: RRoD was fixed with the Jasper-revision 3 years after the launch of 360

"People don't pay attention to a lot of the details."-Yusuf Mehdi explaining why Xbone DRM scheme would succeed

"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360,”-Don Mattrick

"The region locking of the 3DS wasn't done for profits on games"-MDMAlliance