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disolitude said:
dsgrue3 said:
disolitude said:
dsgrue3 said:
disolitude said:
Anyone that is saying that they are not even slightly interested in trying it out...is full of ignarance.

So people will give it a shot. After that its all about software...

Before calling someone ignorant you should learn to spell the word.

Not really...as spelling has nothing to do with getting a point across.

Besides, I speak 3 languages... Spell some Hungarian or Serbian for me. Better yet find them on the map...I'll wait.

No thanks as those languages are basically useless as almost all nations speak English. I do also speak limited spanish. Spelling is essential for understanding. I'll point out Hungary and Serbia when they make a contribution to the World.

100% spelling on videogame forums is essential only to people with inferiority complex like yourself...or is it too much time on your hands? 

Everyone else did not have a problem with my post...

And look up who invented alternating current before you open your mouth next time about contributions to the world. You're not one of the brightest students at your University are you?

Your posts get worse and worse. Are you getting upset? And you're dead wrong about who invented AC.

Charles Proteus Steinmetz was a giant of a pioneer in the field of electrical engineering, who invented a commercially successful alternating current motor.

Charles Steinmetz was born in Breslau, Prussia on April 9, 1865. Breslau is now the city Wroclaw, Poland.



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don't underestimate the power of a widely publicized novelty (or presented as novelty).

Natal -> think of it as Wii fit in that it's unique and with great potential (more than wii fit alone actually).
The success will depend on the press.

I would get one if I had space in my apptement (barely enough for wii fit).



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I don't think wii success automatically means Natal success especially when it comes to casual gamers. Will the casual crowd actually go out and buy a second console system this generation?



Smidlee said:
I don't think wii success automatically means Natal success especially when it comes to casual gamers. Will the casual crowd actually go out and buy a second console system this generation?

The typical gen lifespan is about 4 - 5 years. PS3 has the 10 year plan and MS said the 360 isn't halfway done.

We can presume some if not many Wii owners will eventually buy a HD console. Especially considering the limitations and lack of strong 3rd party support for the Wii.



yo, last time I looked wii totally did not fail...

 

I think pricing will play a big part. given m$ has another price cut. I think this will be bundled in at the price point that it is at right now...



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dsgrue3 said:
disolitude said:
dsgrue3 said:
disolitude said:
dsgrue3 said:
disolitude said:
Anyone that is saying that they are not even slightly interested in trying it out...is full of ignarance.

So people will give it a shot. After that its all about software...

Before calling someone ignorant you should learn to spell the word.

Not really...as spelling has nothing to do with getting a point across.

Besides, I speak 3 languages... Spell some Hungarian or Serbian for me. Better yet find them on the map...I'll wait.

No thanks as those languages are basically useless as almost all nations speak English. I do also speak limited spanish. Spelling is essential for understanding. I'll point out Hungary and Serbia when they make a contribution to the World.

100% spelling on videogame forums is essential only to people with inferiority complex like yourself...or is it too much time on your hands? 

Everyone else did not have a problem with my post...

And look up who invented alternating current before you open your mouth next time about contributions to the world. You're not one of the brightest students at your University are you?

Your posts get worse and worse. Are you getting upset? And you're dead wrong about who invented AC.

Charles Proteus Steinmetz was a giant of a pioneer in the field of electrical engineering, who invented a commercially successful alternating current motor.

Charles Steinmetz was born in Breslau, Prussia on April 9, 1865. Breslau is now the city Wroclaw, Poland.

lol...wow I guess the world will never know that Charles Steinmetz invented alternating current. Who knows maybe he is responsible for Natal too.

Since you seem like the type that lives by information provided by wikipedia I took the liberty to provide you a summary of who the rest of the world thinks invented alternating current.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

"Nikola Tesla (10 July 1856 – 7 January 1943) was an inventor and a mechanical and electrical engineer. He is frequently cited as one of the most important contributors to the birth of commercial electricity and is best known for his many revolutionary developments in the field of electromagnetism in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Tesla's patents and theoretical work formed the basis of modern alternating current (AC) electric power systems, including the polyphase system of electrical distribution and the AC motor, with which he helped usher in the Second Industrial Revolution."

In any case, this is getting way off topic. I will try and watch my spelling in the future...hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me.



Boneitis said:

I see there is talk about Natal could potentially give boost to 360 sales. Based on videos it seems like a great idea.

I just can't imagine people are going to actually have a Natal unless its dirt cheap or it comes bundled with the console. It seems like a device that will appeal to casual gamers so bundling makes sense. Its basically just a camera so its probably cheap to manufacture. Also MS needs to include some sort of mini games like WiiSports.

Otherwise, I don't see the Natal having much of an impact. And if its about $100 it'll definitely fail.

There are key questions that need to be answered regarding it:

1. Does it have any "killer apps" people want to play on it?  Wii Sports and Wii Fit are two on the Wii?

2. Will it have a reasonable price point?

3. Will it come close to doing as promised?

 

I am sure there are others.  Its success depends on how these or others are answered.



Damn it...you beat me to it. I was going to say that Steinmetz can get a rubber fist. Nikola Tesla invented Alternating Current, while Edison was player hating with his Direct Current. There was a huge feud between them, Edison with his dirty tactics against Tesla.



That's about as likely as me playing by somebody elses rules, which I would never do. I only play by my own rules, nobody elses...not even my own.

Tankman said:
Damn it...you beat me to it. I was going to say that Steinmetz can get a rubber fist. Nikola Tesla invented Alternating Current, while Edison was player hating with his Direct Current. There was a huge feud between them, Edison with his dirty tactics against Tesla.

Oh man, some of the stuff I remember reading about what Edison did to gain the upper hand... horrible but facinating at the same time.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

I agree with some previous statements. It looks really interesting, but its price and bundling strategy are key. The biggest obstacle is that it isn't a new system and requires at least a $200 (more likely a $300) investment in addition to its price. That doesn't put it in a great spot against the Wii, and will be a large barrier to adoption by the market that Nintendo has opened up and entrenched itself in. If the Arcade had more storage for online interaction, it might be easier for Microsoft to leverage Live's features against Nintendo's weaker online strategy, but with the $300 initial buy in versus the Wii's $200 and existing line up of group friendly & family games with motion controls it will be pretty tough. The only leverage Microsoft has in that battle is if they price Natal to be sub-$100 and can 'try' to make the argument that is it almost the same price as buying a Wii with 3 extra controllers. Still, not a great position to be in for that market with Nintendo's market dominance there.

So, if it isn't adopted by large enough numbers of the existing 360 market, it isn't going to be a big success. If included with the next Microsoft console, though, it could make some inroads, depending on its price point. Not saying it isn't a fascinating concept with some great potential for the future development. I just don't think the market climate is right for a big Microsoft win here.

I give this thread a 9.7.



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