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OctaBech on 05 November 2009
PalmiNio said:
It's easy to look at the numbers now and belive that it will stay this way.

Is it critical for MS to do a pricecut within 6 months? no, thats just stupid. From waht we have learned the pricecuts has best effect when done in sept. Just like Sony could hold out most of 2009, MS will do the same 2010. We all know that jan-sept don't count in the race for the whole year.

MS has, besides a pricecut, the hardware revision card to play. I can bet my nut that they have a fully working 45nm system working right now that they are tweaking to work in a slim case.

All MS has to do is to release a revision with larger drive, 250gb should be enough, that is slimmer and with WiFi and HDMI 1.3 and they will have the same jump as PS3.

But that's what had me puzzled in a different thread, what has kept MS from revising the hardware? They could have increased profits even more and prevented the PS3 from getting this close or even been in a direct price competition with Nintendo.



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jarrod on 05 November 2009
OctaBech said:
PalmiNio said:
It's easy to look at the numbers now and belive that it will stay this way.

Is it critical for MS to do a pricecut within 6 months? no, thats just stupid. From waht we have learned the pricecuts has best effect when done in sept. Just like Sony could hold out most of 2009, MS will do the same 2010. We all know that jan-sept don't count in the race for the whole year.

MS has, besides a pricecut, the hardware revision card to play. I can bet my nut that they have a fully working 45nm system working right now that they are tweaking to work in a slim case.

All MS has to do is to release a revision with larger drive, 250gb should be enough, that is slimmer and with WiFi and HDMI 1.3 and they will have the same jump as PS3.

But that's what had me puzzled in a different thread, what has kept MS from revising the hardware? They could have increased profits even more and prevented the PS3 from getting this close or even been in a direct price competition with Nintendo.

No console's gotten a case revision as fast as PS3 has.  Arguably, 360 didn't need it, PS3 did.... now the tables are turned.



OctaBech on 05 November 2009
jarrod said:
OctaBech said:
PalmiNio said:
It's easy to look at the numbers now and belive that it will stay this way.

Is it critical for MS to do a pricecut within 6 months? no, thats just stupid. From waht we have learned the pricecuts has best effect when done in sept. Just like Sony could hold out most of 2009, MS will do the same 2010. We all know that jan-sept don't count in the race for the whole year.

MS has, besides a pricecut, the hardware revision card to play. I can bet my nut that they have a fully working 45nm system working right now that they are tweaking to work in a slim case.

All MS has to do is to release a revision with larger drive, 250gb should be enough, that is slimmer and with WiFi and HDMI 1.3 and they will have the same jump as PS3.

But that's what had me puzzled in a different thread, what has kept MS from revising the hardware? They could have increased profits even more and prevented the PS3 from getting this close or even been in a direct price competition with Nintendo.

No console's gotten a case revision as fast as PS3 has.  Arguably, 360 didn't need it, PS3 did.... now the tables are turned.

Meh, I got no interest in the plastic casing, I was talking about the internals.

The 360 could have gotten rid of the fan noise and perhaps even the RRoD thingy, plus a quick google says MS back in '07 where pushing hard for 65nm and had big plans for 45nm chips but since then the PS3 has taken the inner line.

MS shouldn't have allowed Sony to make adverts about their console cutting power consumption.

I know why the original xBox never really had a hardware revision, but this time poorly executed contracts with the hardware suppliers shouldn't be a problem.



jarrod on 05 November 2009
OctaBech said:
jarrod said:
OctaBech said:
PalmiNio said:
It's easy to look at the numbers now and belive that it will stay this way.

Is it critical for MS to do a pricecut within 6 months? no, thats just stupid. From waht we have learned the pricecuts has best effect when done in sept. Just like Sony could hold out most of 2009, MS will do the same 2010. We all know that jan-sept don't count in the race for the whole year.

MS has, besides a pricecut, the hardware revision card to play. I can bet my nut that they have a fully working 45nm system working right now that they are tweaking to work in a slim case.

All MS has to do is to release a revision with larger drive, 250gb should be enough, that is slimmer and with WiFi and HDMI 1.3 and they will have the same jump as PS3.

But that's what had me puzzled in a different thread, what has kept MS from revising the hardware? They could have increased profits even more and prevented the PS3 from getting this close or even been in a direct price competition with Nintendo.

No console's gotten a case revision as fast as PS3 has.  Arguably, 360 didn't need it, PS3 did.... now the tables are turned.

Meh, I got no interest in the plastic casing, I was talking about the internals.

The 360 could have gotten rid of the fan noise and perhaps even the RRoD thingy, plus a quick google says MS back in '07 where pushing hard for 65nm and had big plans for 45nm chips but since then the PS3 has taken the inner line.

MS shouldn't have allowed Sony to make adverts about their console cutting power consumption.

I know why the original xBox never really had a hardware revision, but this time poorly executed contracts with the hardware suppliers shouldn't be a problem.

Uh... 360's on it's 4th internal revision already.  5th if you count the differing refurbs.



Bladeforce on 05 November 2009

I call crap on all the people that say Microsoft have a hardware revision to come. YEAH IT'S CALLED A NEW CONSOLE. Never have Microsoft made a "revision" they are so badly designed to begin with it would cost a fortune to make it slim.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 05 November 2009

3 successive revisions just to reduce the most serious and widespread problems to an acceptable failure rate didn't any good to MS reputation.
Extended warranty was a honest and intelligent move, but showing so blatantly they were so clueless for such a long time about how to resolve RRoD issue was very bad, and very good warranty about it was the only possible move to prevent XB360 from sinking.



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Squilliam on 05 November 2009
Bladeforce said:
I call crap on all the people that say Microsoft have a hardware revision to come. YEAH IT'S CALLED A NEW CONSOLE. Never have Microsoft made a "revision" they are so badly designed to begin with it would cost a fortune to make it slim.

Never has anyone lost as much money as Sony on a console. You know theres a first time for everything!



Tease.

thx1139 on 05 November 2009
Bladeforce said:
I call crap on all the people that say Microsoft have a hardware revision to come. YEAH IT'S CALLED A NEW CONSOLE. Never have Microsoft made a "revision" they are so badly designed to begin with it would cost a fortune to make it slim.


Its no secret that MS has been working on a combined CPU/GPU 45NM chip for the next revision.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

Alby_da_Wolf on 06 November 2009

What's bad for MS is that even before PS3 Slim, just after Xmas 2008 excellent performance was over, the best it could do for 9 months in a row was lower than the worst PS3 Slim did up until now:
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&start=39768&end=40118



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numonex on 06 November 2009

So many people in this thread are going to be eating crow when 2012 passes by and the 360 is still front of the PS3.
360 with its new price cuts in 2010 will build up a lead over the PS3. $99 X360 Arcade would be a lot cheaper than a $249 or $299 PS3.
PS3 may have to wait until 2013 to overtake the 360 and the 360 no longer selling on the market.