Nobody told you or anyone to follow me (I know you in particular didn't vote for SH), it's not my fault that everyone here sees that someone has one vote against and the vote for that one. Again, what did you want me to do. He was getting lynched. Did you want me to just let him die without anything that could help us? Because that was what was happening, I repeat, he had a lot of votes against and the lynch was pretty close to him. I don't want anyone to play the "follow the zexen", I just do what I think it's best for the town, and that includes breaking the mold. And if everyone did that, I seriously think we'd do better.

I think you should ask why everyone piled on Smoked so hastily after I voted for him, and what was everyone planning on doing when he finally came to the thread, or even better, if they even were planning to let him lynched without him getting a chance to defend himself.

And I guess that since you're so tired of the "follow the zexen" game we're supposedly playing, you have a better idea of what to do, don't you?

Besides, I cleared you of being poisoner, doesn't mean I've cleared you of being mafia. I wouldn't exactly trust what plan you had, anyways

To clarify on this, I have ALWAYS (ok, maybe not always, don't go digging every single mafia game, but most of the time) asked for the lynchee's role before he's lynched. You can check that I did the same with Dgc in this game. So, it was only natural that I did it with SH. And I ask you again, you of all can answer it, what would YOU have done in my position? Just let him be lynched without anything that could serve us to a purpose? That would have been an even bigger mistake

I am really confused as to what is going on here.  Please explain.  o_O

First off, smoked hostage just started posting. You could have easily asked him to defend himself and see where that led first rather than rushing straight into a full role claim as the only valid defense. We may have been close to a lynch but when people vote on lurkers they typically switch votes once they see them participate. Again, we didn't need to jump straight from 1 post of the suspect to full role claim. Instead of creating active chatter and accusations we went straight from lynch to "oh, he is the cop" which doesn't help the town at all. If we could have interrogated him instead maybe a mafia would have slipped and made a false accusation. Once a insatisfactory defense is found, then force a full role claim as a last defense, not as a first. If you are driving the game (asking for claims) you are essentially asking the town to follow you. Leaders are leaders by action, not by request, so yes, you lead the town to vote smoked.

I'm not shocked that people piled on, and I have my reasons to suspect them, but most followed the general guidlines of keeping the game active. To each of the people who jumped on smoked I will do my own research, but I don't have a reason to question them yet. We'll see what happens next. Also, no one really defended smoked, so that also helps out his pro-town role as a non-mafia and non-mason. I asked people to be reasonable, but I think I was the only one who even said anything. If you want me to FoS someone who joined the bandwagon, my best would be j0 due to being 4th on the bandwagon, and unvoting without any additional comment. Seems like an under-the-radar kind of thing to me.

Finally, you said so yourself that I could still be anti-town even though I'm not the poisoner. As for trusting my plan, I have yet to claim to have one other than to observe people and vote people who make stupid mistakes and either hurt the town or indicate that they are mafia.

Yeah, here's the thing.

If you ask for a lynchee's role at a time when he isn't necessarily going to die (and we don't lynch lurkers when they cease to lurk, though we will still lynch them if they whine) and you aren't trying to ascertain the threat level of him then you're just playing badly and you should be killed off for the good of the town anyway.

What would I have done in my position? What I did already: call him out for being overly defensive and then let him hang from the neck until dead. We would find out what we need to find out in the morning, with discussion before the hanging providing whatever extra info we would get..

But now that isn't going to happen, is it? You've gone and made yourself look suspicion, and give us much more information than we would have gotten just from hanging Smoked.

Bra-vo.

Khuutra, you didn't play last game. Check it, they piled on Falcon for lurking and when he came they went and lynched him anyway. It's all there. I was dead already, so I couldn't do much. Yes, I acted tempestously, and it was a mistake, but I did it because I considered the right thing to do. And in the end, I don't think it merits a lynch against me, if it means I should back off then fine, but I still think I'm more useful for the town that some people in this game that have 5 posts at most.

Though, if you want, interrogate me, I'll gladly answer to any question you pose me, even if it means I have to roleclaim (though, if you push me to that, you won't be any better than me)