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zexen_lowe on 31 October 2009
nordlead said:
zexen_lowe said:
I don't know what y'all want. You always complaint that there's no one moving the game forward, y'all keep waiting for a roleclaim/cop investigation/anything you can cling on and when I decide to move the game forward you complain and FoS me.

It is unfortunate that Smoked was Cop, but then again, I only voted him for lurking and then everyone decided that because they lack the initiative to do something different they would vote on him. After all, with Smoked with 13 votes, what else could I do? There was no reversing the lynch unless he roleclaimed. I was hoping that he could claim something more...dubious, but that wasn't the case.

Now, I ask you to take a look at yourselves and think what kind of game you want. If you want a game where we just wait for someone to claim "hey, I investigated XXX, he's mafia!", fine, I'll shut up and abide those rules. I just don't want the game to go that way, that's why I said I'd try something different when the game started. But then again, if everything that doesn't go like it always went in the previous games (where all of them played more or less by the "Follow the Cop" rules) is merit of a FoS or lynch, then we're not going forward in this game.

I don't regret what happened, and I won't hesitate in forcing to roleclaim another player, because I think that's how in the end the town wins. But if you think there's another way, feel free to post it so we can follow that path

Brilliant job flushing out the cop. You have a newb player who you just forced a role claim, and we have a poisoner along with other killing roles (obviously the mafia). If you don't want to play follow the cop, then you shouldn't have forced a role claim, as that is the same thing. In fact, why should you be capable of forcing a role claim. If you want to force them, then you should admit your own role, in full as that is only fair for what you are asking. With only a innocent result the cop claim is risky. So now, rather than playing "follow the cop" we are playing "follow the zexen forcing everyone to role claim" but for all we know you are anti-town seeking out the best power roles so you can kill/block.

Nobody told you or anyone to follow me (I know you in particular didn't vote for SH), it's not my fault that everyone here sees that someone has one vote against and the vote for that one. Again, what did you want me to do. He was getting lynched. Did you want me to just let him die without anything that could help us? Because that was what was happening, I repeat, he had a lot of votes against and the lynch was pretty close to him. I don't want anyone to play the "follow the zexen", I just do what I think it's best for the town, and that includes breaking the mold. And if everyone did that, I seriously think we'd do better.

I think you should ask why everyone piled on Smoked so hastily after I voted for him, and what was everyone planning on doing when he finally came to the thread, or even better, if they even were planning to let him lynched without him getting a chance to defend himself.

And I guess that since you're so tired of the "follow the zexen" game we're supposedly playing, you have a better idea of what to do, don't you?

Besides, I cleared you of being poisoner, doesn't mean I've cleared you of being mafia. I wouldn't exactly trust what plan you had, anyways




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c03n3nj0 on 31 October 2009

Hehe, this got good.

I'm kinda believing zexen, it's true that everyone piled on SH. But, still, he was too hasty on it, even though he's now claiming otherwise...

Anyways, I'll think I'll lay back into voting, until we get something.



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Khuutra on 31 October 2009

Who the Hell wants to lynch ME?

Why?

I mean I'm all for lynching SmokedHostage still and I plan to find out what's up with somebody tonight, but Lord

Wht'd I do



zexen_lowe on 31 October 2009
Khuutra said:
Who the Hell wants to lynch ME?

Why?

I mean I'm all for lynching SmokedHostage still and I plan to find out what's up with somebody tonight, but Lord

Wht'd I do

The only one that wanted to was hatmoza, and trust me, I'd lynch him for that (I thought about it), but since he was abducted last night we have no evidence that he's mafia. I mean, sure, he could be and the one that made the kill was another of his partners, but he has at least an alibi. We know for sure that he's not the poisoner, though




nordlead on 31 October 2009

for anyone who is interested, I will be keeping a list of posts that each day starts on so if you want to know, just ask me in this thread. It will be useful for reading back through a day since there are so many posts in this game.

Day 2 starts on Page 22 at 25 posts/page, Post 21, so Thread Post 571 (may be off by 1)




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supermario128 on 31 October 2009

Well, just read through the thread. Zex is acting very different in this game, leading me to believe he is mafia. I mean, he complained in other games how he never gets to be mafia, so now he most likely is. Why else is he forcing role claims and acting crazy.




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makingmusic476 on 01 November 2009

Ugh. 250 posts to read and I am far too tired to really comprehend them all. -_-



zexen_lowe on 01 November 2009
supermario128 said:
Well, just read through the thread. Zex is acting very different in this game, leading me to believe he is mafia. I mean, he complained in other games how he never gets to be mafia, so now he most likely is. Why else is he forcing role claims and acting crazy.

So, because I never was mafia before, I'm mafia now? Again, let me point to a probabilistic properties called "lack of memory". Just because after throwing a coin 10 times you got 10 heads, doesn't mean that if you throw it again, the probability of it being heads or tails is any different than 1/2




zexen_lowe on 01 November 2009

In other words, that I haven't yet been mafia doesn't change in any way the chance I have of being mafia now. I'm not more likely to be mafia for never being one.

And maybe you should read the DN1 thread (where I was L supporter) and compare it with this one, to see how I acted




Khuutra on 01 November 2009

Here is what I think is up

We need to kill SmokedHostage, sure, but I'd rather that the poisoner get him if at all possible. Would you mind, poisoner? Well, I guess we can't trust you.

Also, in spite of the fact that I said to ignore my vote for Gnizmo, I am actually suspicious of him now.

I am also suspicious of zexen. If we had to lynch anyone today, it would be him.

I can't discuss why for Gnizmo, not yet - but I can for zexen. Basically he's acting bizarrely enough that I'd be willing to kill him for behavior alone, and his demand for SmokedHostage's role is just bizarre no matter how you look at it.

Of course, being Layton doesn't clear Smoked either, but zexen in my book is the greater threat.

Hatmoza is also on my radar.