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yushire said:
psrock said:
I find it funny that you are rumbling about the price cuts that worked, and yet you fail to mention the price cut that didn't work, not one bit.

The 360 Elite got a $100 price drop and then MS offered a $50 rebate on top of that.

 

 

Again, whats the 360 got to do with he topic? Are we discussing the 360 here?

Again, your topic is about price cut being helpful, then somehow fail to include all the console which had price cut. The reason so many people are going after you is because common sense is missing from your thread.



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Most people can tell trends after 1.5 months. NOT



Wii has been up week over week every week since the pricecut.

I'd say yes.



papflesje said:

That was NOT your point. Your point was trying to state that both price cuts failed because of some reason no one is able to see. Yet, now you want to "prove" that they have failed because they couldn't beat the numbers from the year before (which was the top year for consoles like the Wii). That's just ludicrous. If Man Utd doesn't score more than 100 goals, they will have failed, even though they might still win the league? It doesn't work like that. Sales have increased tremendously for the PS3 right now, and that's the aim of the price cut. Because, with your "logic", the 360 is bound to be this year's biggest failure.

I wouldn't worry about it - this guy (yushire) is just a troll. Just look at the history of threads he's posted. When he gets tired of being called asinine in this one, he'll just start another with the same general theme.



papflesje said:
yushire said:

 

 

OK then, if thats what you want then Im fine with that. Im already let this topic go and say few months later "I told you so" when that time comes. But since you insist I'll let you and others here and make a monthly comparison. I still win though, nothing can win the OCT-Dec. 2008 and Jan.-Mar. 2009 NPD

 

BTW 2009 was the start of recession and the Wii still selling that much till March

That was NOT your point. Your point was trying to state that both price cuts failed because of some reason no one is able to see. Yet, now you want to "prove" that they have failed because they couldn't beat the numbers from the year before (which was the top year for consoles like the Wii). That's just ludicrous. If Man Utd doesn't score more than 100 goals, they will have failed, even though they might still win the league? It doesn't work like that. Sales have increased tremendously for the PS3 right now, and that's the aim of the price cut. Because, with your "logic", the 360 is bound to be this year's biggest failure.

 

 

 

Did I say holiday months? The wii sells double in month of September inspite of no pricecut.  like everyone here says the console sales are seasonal. Seem Nintendo only wants to bite that they cant chew. If the sales of the Wii doubled in the month of October in the next NPD then Im convinced the pricecut was working.

 

And as for ther WW thing, its official some countries especially UK have no preicecut so far. So theres no reason to pull out the WW numbers to prove that the pricecut was working.



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E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

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Well this is a very strong definition of temporary. I mean technically nothing can stay on "heightened" levels when it comes to sales. Actually the argument you propose can be put towards the holiday season. And that because they start to go down after the holidays that the holiday sales weren't worth it.

The importance of a price cut is of course to reinvigorate not only sales but marketing and brand as well. I'd say Sony and Nintendo have both been very successful in doing that and MS was successful in doing it last year. Of course it won't last forever but it is still necessary to do. If companies knew they could do something that would allow it to sell at high paces forever... they'd do it. But for now, I'd say both price cuts have been received well and could potentially show some strength in the next 6-12 months too.



puffy said:
yushire said:

You must read my last post before this one, Nintendo Wii must outsell or even more their monthly sales last year for the pricecut to be worth it. if not, why even bother with losing potential profit with a 250 dollar console to slash the price at  200?

Business doesn't work that way, there is a certain amount of people that will buy your product at $250. There's a certain number that will buy at $199 etc.. Nintendo obviously weighed up the amount of people that would buy this holiday for $250 and it wasn't enough. It's about momentum in the console business and having a lower amount of sales through the holiday would probably have caused a future price cut to $199 to have a smaller impact.

Trust me, you can't just say 'it has to outsell last year to be worth it' because there are many other factors to consider with a pricing strategy.

The idea is to move your product costwise downward, as soon as you can, so that you reach a larger audience of potential buyers, who then can buy more software and so on.  You seek to do this as profitably as ppossible



Anyway I dont want to make doom and gloom posts here but for the sake of the discussion...


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=378306


Its news from reuters Ninty's profit was down 50 percent. Thats in spite of pricedrop and it seem the pricecut didnt do well for Nintendo. theres no hype after the pricecut. I think its game over already for the Wii. Its a good run the Wii will be in 60 M mark before the market saturated just like in the NES. And yeah before Ninty dished out a new console, and as for the DS and PS2 that everyone wants to debate here its a special case its more like market anomally. Even Pachter cant predict it. And yeah I always says Pachter in my posts now, because what he says in public was just for the LULZ. I mean 18 M MW2 in 12 months? If Pachter just didnt fooling around I just dont know what...


And for everyone thinking its the first half of the fiscal year so the pricecut included. The article just posted this week...



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

justinian said:


If moving off the bottom of the weekly console sales charts and more than tripling sales from previous months isn't progressive (not helping) then I don't know what is.

Temporary???

Everything in life IS temporary.




to be fair the PS3 was doing pethetic in the weeks leading up to the price cut... more important that just that is the fact that Microsoft was able to keep their sales stable and Nintendo wasn't untill they dropped the price 50 bucks... but sales in the US will be a big boon for both Microsoft and Sony this year... hopefully we wont see to much of a dip in sales with the Wii's dramatic drop in sales



yushire said:
Anyway I dont want to make doom and gloom posts here but for the sake of the discussion...


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=378306


Its news from reuters Ninty's profit was down 50 percent. Thats in spite of pricedrop and it seem the pricecut didnt do well for Nintendo. theres no hype after the pricecut. I think its game over already for the Wii. Its a good run the Wii will be in 60 M mark before the market saturated just like in the NES. And yeah before Ninty dished out a new console, and as for the DS and PS2 that everyone wants to debate here its a special case its more like market anomally. Even Pachter cant predict it. And yeah I always says Pachter in my posts now, because what he says in public was just for the LULZ. I mean 18 M MW2 in 12 months? If Pachter just didnt fooling around I just dont know what...


And for everyone thinking its the first half of the fiscal year so the pricecut included. The article just posted this week...

Price drop = lower profits, who'da thunk it?