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Dazzle on 25 October 2009

wont it shift ps3s as well as its on that console too..



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Munkeh111 on 25 October 2009
slowmo said:
Didn't GTAIV bump both HD consoles sales for a month upon release, dismissing multiplatform titles moving some consoles is utter nonsense. I still don't think it will push the 360 significantly more than the PS3 but there will be a significant spike for both HD consoles imo.

Uncharted 2 was a system seller in many peoples eyes on this site too, so that would dispell the myth sequels don't shift consoles too. Funny how a lot of peoples opinion shift when they suddenly don't fit an agenda they're pushing round here.

It did, but firstly it pushed both (the PS3 more) and GTA IV is different, and the first GTA of the generation. U2 AT was a system seller because it boosted sales by 25%, though I didn't expect it myself



Squilliam on 25 October 2009
slowmo said:
Didn't GTAIV bump both HD consoles sales for a month upon release, dismissing multiplatform titles moving some consoles is utter nonsense. I still don't think it will push the 360 significantly more than the PS3 but there will be a significant spike for both HD consoles imo.

Uncharted 2 was a system seller in many peoples eyes on this site too, so that would dispell the myth sequels don't shift consoles too. Funny how a lot of peoples opinion shift when they suddenly don't fit an agenda they're pushing round here.

I wouldn't call Uncharted 2 a real system seller. The truth is probably that 90-95% of the people whom bought a console with Uncharted 2 would have bought one anyway, they just brought that purchase forward. The pricecut and redesign sold the system, Uncharted 2 just sped up their purchase.



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Zer0John on 25 October 2009

no, i don't think 360 will outsell the ps3. in general i think the 360 had its time, 2010 and further the ps3 will outsell the 360..



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Squilliam on 25 October 2009
CGI-Quality said:

^^ Oh now it's not a "REAL" system seller.... Like others have said, the moving of the goalpost is golden.

First people claimed it wouldn't sell even ONE system. Then they claimed 800,000+ first week is a major disappointment. Now: "because people would have bought the console anyway (even though it doesn't explain the 19% increase in the PS3's toughest sales territory last week), it wasn't a real system seller....?

The hypocrisy these days is almost comical.

No it isn't a 'REAL' system seller.

Final Fantasy XIII has sold PS3s.

Gran Turismo 5 has sold PS3s

Mario Kart has sold Wiis

Wii Fit has sold Wiis

Wii Sports has sold Wiis

Halo 3 has sold Xbox 360s

Why the hell do people insist on hyperbole ALL the time? To say Uncharted 2 is a system seller is like hyping up the fact that Helghast have red eyes in Killzone 2. Its a non event.

 



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Munkeh111 on 25 October 2009
Squilliam said:
slowmo said:
Didn't GTAIV bump both HD consoles sales for a month upon release, dismissing multiplatform titles moving some consoles is utter nonsense. I still don't think it will push the 360 significantly more than the PS3 but there will be a significant spike for both HD consoles imo.

Uncharted 2 was a system seller in many peoples eyes on this site too, so that would dispell the myth sequels don't shift consoles too. Funny how a lot of peoples opinion shift when they suddenly don't fit an agenda they're pushing round here.

I wouldn't call Uncharted 2 a real system seller. The truth is probably that 90-95% of the people whom bought a console with Uncharted 2 would have bought one anyway, they just brought that purchase forward. The pricecut and redesign sold the system, Uncharted 2 just sped up their purchase.

How does increasing sales by 25% not count as a system seller?



daiyumn on 25 October 2009

nahh

Its not like Modern Warfare 2 is only for the 360, but there are exclusive for the 360 like that one bundle



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Squilliam on 25 October 2009
Munkeh111 said:
Squilliam said:
slowmo said:
Didn't GTAIV bump both HD consoles sales for a month upon release, dismissing multiplatform titles moving some consoles is utter nonsense. I still don't think it will push the 360 significantly more than the PS3 but there will be a significant spike for both HD consoles imo.

Uncharted 2 was a system seller in many peoples eyes on this site too, so that would dispell the myth sequels don't shift consoles too. Funny how a lot of peoples opinion shift when they suddenly don't fit an agenda they're pushing round here.

I wouldn't call Uncharted 2 a real system seller. The truth is probably that 90-95% of the people whom bought a console with Uncharted 2 would have bought one anyway, they just brought that purchase forward. The pricecut and redesign sold the system, Uncharted 2 just sped up their purchase.

How does increasing sales by 25% not count as a system seller?

How can an opening of $5M U.S. in theatres not be considered huge?



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AvZeroMkA157 on 25 October 2009

Since Modern Warfare 2 is not a timed exclusive what will most likely happen is either this game will not push much hardware or bump both consoles up depending on the reviews.

The only region the 360 has a decent of outselling the PS3 is the US.



Squilliam on 25 October 2009

Im not making sense? I haven't said that it hasn't sold systems, the systems are bought for the games of course. What im saying is that it hasn't gone on to sell enough systems to call it a system seller and to do that dilutes the real accomplishments of the true system sellers.

You wouldn't call Vampire Rain a real technical masterpiece because it limps over the finish line of looking better than most last generation games would you? I hope not. If you take a litteral interpretation of 'if it sold systems then its a system seller' then its meaningless so either Uncharted 2 is a system seller and the distinction is meaningless or Uncharted 2 isn't a system seller and the distinction is meaningful.



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