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Larad on 26 October 2009
yushire said:
dib8rman said:
I am killing time =P.

 

 

I know you just having good time on your posts with your Malstrom type posts. No one even posts on this thread till you post.

 

@Larad----> yeah, like FPS and 2-d platformers. Atleast know the subject before you post. Any person can counter your post easily...

 

Whats your point? I dont play platformer or fps games either because the narratives suck. Having more UGC games means less games with strong narratives. As gaming evolves we should be striving to achieve narrative and artistic equality with films not the opposite.

 



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yushire on 26 October 2009
Larad said:
yushire said:
dib8rman said:
I am killing time =P.

 

 

I know you just having good time on your posts with your Malstrom type posts. No one even posts on this thread till you post.

 

@Larad----> yeah, like FPS and 2-d platformers. Atleast know the subject before you post. Any person can counter your post easily...

 

Whats your point? I dont play platformer or fps games either because the narratives suck. Having more UGC games means less games with strong narratives. As gaming evolves we should be striving to achieve narrative and artistic equality with films not the opposite.

 

 

OH... But you will forced to play UGC and DLC content gamesoon. its the future. And yeah, my avvy was too small I fix it tomorrow

 

 



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

outlawauron on 26 October 2009
Onyxmeth said:
leo-j said:
no its usc

You know they beat Oregon State 42-36 today. Go Trojans!

What are you talking about?

USC beat Vanderbilt 14-10 on Saturday!



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.jayderyu on 26 October 2009

Let's break this down a bit.

UGC is not a problem. It's UGC and consoles. Consoles are a barrier for UGC orientated games. UGC requires community development participation. Either by groups to create or make sharing easy(Wiimusic failed at both of these). Console are expanding, but part of theproblem is that consoles have been the domain of company created experience not UGC. So there is a lack of UGC orientated people. How can consoles get UGC people. Easy tools, easy sharing easy development and a good fun game.

Malstrom Blog tools started off as user tools created by a need. They were refinded and popularized and the people who started them eventually comercilized the tools. But they were still just user generated objects from PHP/JSP....

Another success is Youtube that the OP uses to share. Youtube is all about sharing. It is the ultimate in video sharing tools. I assure when console start developing not only UGC tools, but the sharing tools creators will come forward. LBP is a great example of an excellent game hindered by user base. Imagine if such a game was on all consoles with a centralized sharing depositry? Malstrom would not be able to complain about LBP at all. This is why UGC has consistenyl worked on the PC. It's open network means that usergenrated sharing tools can be created and has an incredibly sized userbase.

 

Edit PS:

Silly me I forgot to mention the king of gaming UGC. Never Winter Nights. If any game was a slap to the face on Malstroms anti UGC opinion NWN delivers with a 2x4.

UGC should not be considered a replacement of content, but a way to extend the life of a game. A long life game typiclly sells more and keeps it's legs stronger. That's why DLC will also be another popular alterantive since it will offer after development for longevity of profits.



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Onyxmeth on 26 October 2009
outlawauron said:
Onyxmeth said:
leo-j said:
no its usc

You know they beat Oregon State 42-36 today. Go Trojans!

What are you talking about?

USC beat Vanderbilt 14-10 on Saturday!

You're talking about the other USC. The one nobody gives a crap about.



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outlawauron on 26 October 2009
Onyxmeth said:
outlawauron said:
Onyxmeth said:
leo-j said:
no its usc

You know they beat Oregon State 42-36 today. Go Trojans!

What are you talking about?

USC beat Vanderbilt 14-10 on Saturday!

You're talking about the other USC. The one nobody gives a crap about.

Really now? At least they don't play a bunch of West Coast pansies week in and week out.



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And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

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yushire on 27 October 2009
.jayderyu said:

Let's break this down a bit.

UGC is not a problem. It's UGC and consoles. Consoles are a barrier for UGC orientated games. UGC requires community development participation. Either by groups to create or make sharing easy(Wiimusic failed at both of these). Console are expanding, but part of theproblem is that consoles have been the domain of company created experience not UGC. So there is a lack of UGC orientated people. How can consoles get UGC people. Easy tools, easy sharing easy development and a good fun game.

Malstrom Blog tools started off as user tools created by a need. They were refinded and popularized and the people who started them eventually comercilized the tools. But they were still just user generated objects from PHP/JSP....

Another success is Youtube that the OP uses to share. Youtube is all about sharing. It is the ultimate in video sharing tools. I assure when console start developing not only UGC tools, but the sharing tools creators will come forward. LBP is a great example of an excellent game hindered by user base. Imagine if such a game was on all consoles with a centralized sharing depositry? Malstrom would not be able to complain about LBP at all. This is why UGC has consistenyl worked on the PC. It's open network means that usergenrated sharing tools can be created and has an incredibly sized userbase.

 

Edit PS:

Silly me I forgot to mention the king of gaming UGC. Never Winter Nights. If any game was a slap to the face on Malstroms anti UGC opinion NWN delivers with a 2x4.

UGC should not be considered a replacement of content, but a way to extend the life of a game. A long life game typiclly sells more and keeps it's legs stronger. That's why DLC will also be another popular alterantive since it will offer after development for longevity of profits.

 

 

 

I think what you're saying will happen in the next  console's itterations. and yeah, the ones missing in console gaming that PC gaming have was the community. not to mention theres a limit in your friend's list on consoles. I think even Nintendo will think of that...

 

 

But mods in PC gaming like Neverwinter nights ARENT USER GENERATED CONETENT. Remember? LOL I still dont get it why vgchartz likes him...



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

zarx on 27 October 2009

I just thought I would post some "UGC games" like RPG maker have no content but have allowed thousands of people to create their own games some of the actually quite good. but UGC will never become the only thing it has it's place and can lead to some great things (counterstrike DOTA etc) and if it plays a larger part in the future as a way of getting more from games I am all for it hell I have spent more time playing custom maps for warcraft 3 than the rest of the game.



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yushire on 27 October 2009

Yume Nikki's EPIC ENDING FTW! These are the reasons why UGC was worth it. And yeag, its also made on RPG maker



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg