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theprof00 on 23 October 2009

On top of that, the OP also says that the Wii had an install base of 53M at the end of July, even though VGC only shows 51M, and that PS3 had nearly 24M in LATE august, when the number was much closer to 23M.

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&start=39740&end=40104&weekly=1



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XanderZane on 23 October 2009
theprof00 said:
XanderZane said:
theprof00 said:
get back under you're bridge troll. VGC is right, MS is wrong.

Yeah.. ok, so if Sony said this, VGChartz would still be wrong? LOL!!

Let's face it, they undertracked the count. It happens when you base your numbers on estimates. If M$ said they were at 34 million sold in August, that would mean they are probably close to 34.4 million worldwide as of today. The PS3 still has a long way to go to catch the XBox 360. They are making grounds, but I predict a new XBox launching in 2011 or 2012.

yes, they would still be wrong.

We go over this almost every single time ms or sony says anything about installed base. I've asked the same thing as you before. The point is, you're wrong.

No, I'm not wrong. The point is, no one cares what you think. I think everyone would believe Microsoft over you.  Go troll somewhere else.



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Seece on 23 October 2009

Microsoft didn't fling 34 million out of nowhere. More than likely

33.5 million shipped as of the 1QT (Sep 31st) 34 million as of this report (October 23rd.)



 

theprof00 on 23 October 2009
XanderZane said:
theprof00 said:
XanderZane said:
theprof00 said:
get back under you're bridge troll. VGC is right, MS is wrong.

Yeah.. ok, so if Sony said this, VGChartz would still be wrong? LOL!!

Let's face it, they undertracked the count. It happens when you base your numbers on estimates. If M$ said they were at 34 million sold in August, that would mean they are probably close to 34.4 million worldwide as of today. The PS3 still has a long way to go to catch the XBox 360. They are making grounds, but I predict a new XBox launching in 2011 or 2012.

yes, they would still be wrong.

We go over this almost every single time ms or sony says anything about installed base. I've asked the same thing as you before. The point is, you're wrong.

No, I'm not wrong. The point is, no one cares what you think. I think everyone would believe Microsoft over you.  Go troll somewhere else.

I hope that smiley face means you have been joking the whole time. If so, I would add you as a friend for having me going for that long thinking you were serious.

 



XanderZane on 23 October 2009
theprof00 said:
XanderZane said:
theprof00 said:
XanderZane said:
theprof00 said:
get back under you're bridge troll. VGC is right, MS is wrong.

Yeah.. ok, so if Sony said this, VGChartz would still be wrong? LOL!!

Let's face it, they undertracked the count. It happens when you base your numbers on estimates. If M$ said they were at 34 million sold in August, that would mean they are probably close to 34.4 million worldwide as of today. The PS3 still has a long way to go to catch the XBox 360. They are making grounds, but I predict a new XBox launching in 2011 or 2012.

yes, they would still be wrong.

We go over this almost every single time ms or sony says anything about installed base. I've asked the same thing as you before. The point is, you're wrong.

No, I'm not wrong. The point is, no one cares what you think. I think everyone would believe Microsoft over you. Go troll somewhere else.

I hope that smiley face means you have been joking the whole time. If so, I would add you as a friend for having me going for that long thinking you were serious.

 

Well, hopefully you've been joking, because you don't have a clue.



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theprof00 on 23 October 2009

OIC that wasn't a I trolled you, it was a " Please accept this smiley face as part of my insult"



theprof00 on 23 October 2009

So I would like to know, you think Wii is also undertracked by 2M and ps3 is undertracked my nearly 1M?



Vetteman94 on 23 October 2009
XanderZane said:
Seece said:
XanderZane said:
Seece said:
Yeah here we go

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2005/sep/28/xboxloses4bi

$4 bill lost on original Xbox

Yeah.. that's about right. They have been profitting with the Xbox 360 for more then 2 yrs now, so they are probably almost out of the RED by now. This definitely be in the positive before this generation is over. Sony has had hhuge losses the last 2 quarters. Not only in their gaming division, but also their electronics (HDTV, Blu-Ray, DVD, Camera, CD Players, Receivers, etc..) division has posted large losses. I don't know how they stay afloat. Maybe their movie studio is doing well enough. Anyway, Microsoft and the XBox 360 is on the right track for now.

Unfortunately Microsoft still have a few billion left before they're in the black. The 360 was a loss leader at the start and RROD cost $1 billion.

Like you said though the good news is the 360 has been profitiable for the last 2 years and everything is looking up, by the end of the gen it wouldn't surprise me if the Xbox franchise is profitable overall. Now that WOULD be a comeback.

i don't think it's that much. They already made up for the $1 billion RROD warranty. If anything they probably have just over a billion to make up for and they should get that by the end of the year or Spring of next year. They'll be out of the black completely next year.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=659971

Microsoft was down $6.3B at the end of FY 2008, now depending on what happened over the last 5 quarters, they could be close to being under $5B in the red.  But they are no where near going into the black for the entire division anytime soon.   It may take 4 more years for that.



theprof00 on 23 October 2009

Microsoft's shipments figures are in line with expectations. Vgchartz had expected Microsoft's figures to reach 33.3m hardware units (1.9m July-Sept), and 293m games (23m July-Sept), so the actual figures for the quarter were only off by 1.5m units of software and 0.2m units of hardware. We're expecting Sony and Nintendo figures to be similarly close next week.
http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5645&mp=1

It is not only my "opinion", that these numbers are shipped. It is the "opinion" of not only several contributors and veteran posters on this site, but admins and mods alike.

 

What's interesting is that the people who are saying MS is right are posters with an average of 500 posts, and the people saying that it's shipped not sold have an average of 5000 posts.



ph4nt on 23 October 2009

Congratulations MS on making money on the 360, now there is only 1 left.

Sony get your act together and start making some money! It's not good to have 2/3 console makers in the hole for the majority of the time.