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theprof00 on 23 October 2009

shouldn't you guys know by now that MS tracks shipment and not sales?



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Seece on 23 October 2009
Vetteman94 said:
newbie3 said:
Vetteman94 said:
So how much is the E&D Division in the red since the original Xbox came around? Its nice to see they are starting to pick up the pace diggin themselves out of that hole.

I dont remember anymore, but for what it's worth Sony has probably lost more with PS3 than MS has with the entire Xbox project (1 and 360). Or it should be close anyway.

 

The last two fiscal years (which end each June 30)the Xbox division profited 469m and 169m or around there. So about 650m profit. But remember before that they had a 1B write off just for RROD, so they haven't even made that back. They start off this fiscal year with a nice 312m profit now.

 

Then on the other hand theres no telling what is Xbox profit/loss and what is other products in the division either. My gut feeling is if anything Xbox profit is higher than division profit (in other words, rest of the division loses money).

Well, I do believe the number was close to $10B in the red for the Xbox and Xbox 360,  so I dont think it is as close as you think it is

hmm, never seen that 10 bill figure before, I thought it was around 6?



 

Seece on 23 October 2009

Yeah here we go

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2005/sep/28/xboxloses4bi

$4 bill lost on original Xbox



 

Vetteman94 on 23 October 2009
Seece said:
Vetteman94 said:
newbie3 said:
Vetteman94 said:
So how much is the E&D Division in the red since the original Xbox came around? Its nice to see they are starting to pick up the pace diggin themselves out of that hole.

I dont remember anymore, but for what it's worth Sony has probably lost more with PS3 than MS has with the entire Xbox project (1 and 360). Or it should be close anyway.

 

The last two fiscal years (which end each June 30)the Xbox division profited 469m and 169m or around there. So about 650m profit. But remember before that they had a 1B write off just for RROD, so they haven't even made that back. They start off this fiscal year with a nice 312m profit now.

 

Then on the other hand theres no telling what is Xbox profit/loss and what is other products in the division either. My gut feeling is if anything Xbox profit is higher than division profit (in other words, rest of the division loses money).

Well, I do believe the number was close to $10B in the red for the Xbox and Xbox 360,  so I dont think it is as close as you think it is

hmm, never seen that 10 bill figure before, I thought it was around 6?

Well, it was on this website where I saw that number, but it was probably including all the other things in the E&D Division



theprof00 on 23 October 2009

no way is vgc off by 1.4M, MS is wrong.



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kitler53 on 23 October 2009

well if this is ship not sold and taking to be rounded up vgchartz isn't too far off but an adjustment is probably incoming.



Vetteman94 on 23 October 2009
theprof00 said:
shouldn't you guys know by now that MS tracks shipment and not sales?


Well, I guess a good question would be, is it normal for there to be over 1.5 millions 360s on shelves? 



XanderZane on 23 October 2009
theprof00 said:
get back under you're bridge troll. VGC is right, MS is wrong.

Yeah.. ok, so if Sony said this,  VGChartz would still be wrong? LOL!!

Let's face it, they undertracked the count. It happens when you base your numbers on estimates. If M$ said they were at 34 million sold in August, that would mean they are probably close to 34.4 million worldwide as of today. The PS3 still has a long way to go to catch the XBox 360. They are making grounds, but I predict a new XBox launching in 2011 or 2012.



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sega4life on 23 October 2009
theprof00 said:
shouldn't you guys know by now that MS tracks shipment and not sales?

"the 360's installed base is now over 34 million units worldwide"



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OctaBech on 23 October 2009
newbie3 said:
Vetteman94 said:
So how much is the E&D Division in the red since the original Xbox came around? Its nice to see they are starting to pick up the pace diggin themselves out of that hole.

I dont remember anymore, but for what it's worth Sony has probably lost more with PS3 than MS has with the entire Xbox project (1 and 360). Or it should be close anyway.

 

The last two fiscal years (which end each June 30)the Xbox division profited 469m and 169m or around there. So about 650m profit. But remember before that they had a 1B write off just for RROD, so they haven't even made that back. They start off this fiscal year with a nice 312m profit now.

 

Then on the other hand theres no telling what is Xbox profit/loss and what is other products in the division either. My gut feeling is if anything Xbox profit is higher than division profit (in other words, rest of the division loses money).

What makes you think Sony has lost as much, if not more on the PS3 than MS did on the original xBox?

I mean the PS3 was sold at $600 for quite some time where as the original xBox had a dramatic price cut almost adjacent to its launch.

Then there's also the whole debacle MS had with the hardware suppliers, preventing the xBox from being made cost efficient, while Sony steadily have been cutting production costs for the PS3.