I don't see anything wrong with paying for it at all. I would pay for it if I had it. Even if it was just to play Halo and Gears. I was just trying to give an example of what I would compare the charge to as someone who only sees the charge from the outside. I don't know the full extent of Live so I can't really go into much detail so I tried my best.

lol. I was about to ask the same thing after reading the OP

Appearantly a lot of people. why do you think there are so many porn pay sites?

You've got a point there. I guess ignorance is bliss.

What are you trying to prove? I don't get the point of this thread.

1. The 360 is cheaper initially but add up $60 per year you are going to have live (after 5 years that's $300, or the cost of a new elite console) and for the arcade you could throw on the cost of a hard drive if you want it and a wifi adapter if you prefer wireless.

After just 3 years your $200 arcade console would cost ~$450 if you bought live every year and a hard drive.

found right below argument #1 in OP.

"FACT: The PS3 is a cheaper console after adding up all the accesories (new, not used) so why is it behind the 360 in terms of total sales (or perhaps at an earlier time, current sales numbers.)"