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Acevil said:
vlad321 said:
Acevil said:
vlad321 said:
jefforange89 said:
tl;dr: we dumbed the game down for the scrubs

I thought that's why they had consoles..... why are they doing this on the PC too?

Is that all you can do, is insult consoles?

Also Shio did you see my request?

Well they ruin PC games... so yeah?

Why not blame the developers for dumbing it down, why not blame piracy for exclusives having to go to the consoles.

Why is it necessary to blame the "consoles".

I guess I am not any different than you really. I blame graphic progression for games being dull and boring. Games these days are about being graphically strong, story might suck but if graphics and CGI are in there it is awesome.

Given I have gained some hopes with Witcher and Demon Souls. The only game that I liked that focused on graphics and CGI was Uncharted 2 but that game had fun gameplay to back it up..

i lol'd at that. acevil +1



 

 

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shio said:
bRoKeN said:

"Zampella downplays the obvious piracy prevention angle (IW has cited numbers of people online playing illegal copies of Modern Warfare up to 60 percent)."

i say pc gamers should stfu because your lucky to even get the game but they pucked pc gamers in the arse on this one. 116k signs is more then i expected, even though they will get the game anyway, but this is nothing compared to the ~3m first week it will be on xbox alone week 1 so if i was iw i wouldnt care about this petition

COD4 sold MILLIONS on PC!! It would've been highly likely to reach 10 millions lifetime if Activision hand't cut off it's legs by releaseing World at War, and now Modern Warfare 2 in such a short time.

 

 


proof it sold millions on pc ?



 

 

jefforange89 said:
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/15395896827a67ca5a9472dcedd27a094c700eb0.png

haha

that is so funny if i had cod4 on pc i would jion these servers and laugh more.

nice find jeffprange89 + 1



 

 

lol. I love it. So much hate.



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Why I signed the Modern Warfare 2 dedicated server petition

And why you should, too.

The news that Modern Warfare 2 will not include code for dedicated multiplayer servers, instead relying on a yet to be revealed, peer-to-peer matchmaking service called IW.net, hasn't gone down well. At the last glance, 90,000 (Now 120,000 Welshbloke) gamers had signed a petition asking for dedicated server support to be reinstated. Those gamers are right. I've signed the same petition, and I think you should, too. Here's why.

A dedicated server is a PC usually held within a bank of computers belonging to a private company or the game's own publisher. Dedicated server hosts have been part of PC gaming for decades; I think you can attribute some of the rise of multiplayer games like Counter-Strike and Call of Duty directly to their work.

Why?

1) Dedicated server hosts are judged by their reliability. If a server crashes, or an internet connection goes down, the gamers paying to host the game will complain, and they'll start to move elsewhere. This economic motivation forces server hosts to constantly improve their hardware, their internet connection, and their management tools. Compare that to the peer-to-peer networking that Infinity Ward developers are proposing, where the quality of the game will be entirely dependant on the gamer's own home web connection.

2) Dedicated servers are fair. Want to know why that player always seems to get the drop on you when you're playing Call of Duty on Xbox 360? It might be because he's the host of the game. In combat, data has to be bounced from his console, to yours, and back again, for you to impact on the game. Meanwhile, he doesn't have to wait on the round trip - he can fire as soon as he's ready. Hosts always have an advantage in peer-to-peer networked games.

3) Dedicated servers are adaptable. We don't know the details of what InfinityWard.net will offer, but there's little chance that the tickbox customisation options usually available to players in peer-to-peer matchmaking setups can match the level of control dedicated servers offer. That can include, but not be limited to: competitive players who run their own specific rulesets, to the spectator mode mods, to machinima friendly sets, to the expanded player counts, to the custom maps. That evolution of content is key to extending a PC game's lifespan, and improving that game. Enabling the community to host the mods and maps they choose is a good thing. Entire game development businesses have been built from gamers hosting dedicated servers for popular, low key games. Guys like Splash Damage (Enemy Territory, Brink), Tripwire Interactive (Red Orchestra, Killing Floor) simply wouldn't be around were it not for gamers putting up their own cash to pay for dedicated servers.

4) Dedicated servers create community. Don't think of them as a piece of hardware. Think of them as a place. PC Gamer hosts servers for Team Fortress 2, Killing Floor, and yes, Modern Warfare. We have plenty of regulars who are looking forward to playing Modern Warfare 2 together. If we had dedicated server code, we would definitely host our own place - it's good for our readers, and it's good to create magazine loyalty. Every month, we'll join the servers to play with them. We don't have to swap friends contacts, or pray that our skill levels will broadly match. We just double click the server, and we're playing together. PC Gamer isn't alone - communities worldwide love hosting servers for their members. Peer-to-peer matchmaking stops that happening. Now, that specific group of fans simply can't play together. Even worse, without dedicated servers we can't enforce our 'don't be a dick' policy. We can't ban racist or homophobic players, nor can we appoint our own moderators to look after our community when we're not online.

Modern Warfare 2 launches in twenty days. It would be nice to see Infinity Ward demonstrate what advantages InfinityWard.net can offer as soon as possible.

Source PC Gamer

 



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bRoKeN said:

"Zampella downplays the obvious piracy prevention angle (IW has cited numbers of people online playing illegal copies of Modern Warfare up to 60 percent)."

i say pc gamers should stfu because your lucky to even get the game but they pucked pc gamers in the arse on this one. 116k signs is more then i expected, even though they will get the game anyway, but this is nothing compared to the ~3m first week it will be on xbox alone week 1 so if i was iw i wouldnt care about this petition

We should be happy and stfu that the game has turned into absolute crap? Good idea, let's buy millions of it!

 

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vlad321 said:
bRoKeN said:

"Zampella downplays the obvious piracy prevention angle (IW has cited numbers of people online playing illegal copies of Modern Warfare up to 60 percent)."

i say pc gamers should stfu because your lucky to even get the game but they pucked pc gamers in the arse on this one. 116k signs is more then i expected, even though they will get the game anyway, but this is nothing compared to the ~3m first week it will be on xbox alone week 1 so if i was iw i wouldnt care about this petition

We should be happy and stfu that the game has turned into absolute crap? Good idea, let's buy millions of it!

 

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Thats absolutely the only way to get to them.  Prove that it is not acceptable and don't buy it.  But I guess that was the feeling IW got for the first MW when more people pirated it on pc than bought it.  So they decided they needed to fix something.



It is going to sell 15 million + copies and it will make up any lost PC money but DLC and Map packs that they charge for. If you couldn’t see this coming you were blind. When other companies see how successful this is they will start doing the same thing. This is definitely a black and white business decision that makes sense for them in the long run.