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Oh they can tell who is using an illegal copy. They aren't stupid



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augustoaag said:
FKNetwork said:

People that download the game and play online early deserve to get banned, this is currently the ONLY way you will get banned for having a flashed xbox (playing games before release date), if you don't play games early you will NOT get banned. 


I was looking on a few sites yesterday having a nosey so I am upto date on the bannings as I flash 360's and there is a 40 page thread on people saying they all got banned for playing forza 3 online early but have no idea why they were banned lmao, playing ANY game early will make your account stick out like a sore thumb, I dunno how many times I have to tell people on these other sites but its getting to a point where I won't bother saying a word in future.

No one with a flashed 360 will get banned as long as you don't play any games before they are released.

 

 

Also, regarding the bannings:

Microsoft still have no idea how to tell a proper copy of a game to a "pirate" copy, they have already banned 11 game reviewers (in less than a day) who have Forza 3 early, these reviewers were all given proper copies of the game at the Turn 10 press event in London, the reviewers banned include one from the official uk xbox magazine and one from eurogamer lol.

Turn 10 have an "approved list" of people that are allowed to play the game early, anyone not on this list is getting banned, the problem is that a lot of people who have proper copies of this game haven't been added to the list and as a result have got banned.....

 

Those reviewers could have a flashed xbox360.

And that thing about how they ban is just bullshit you happen to believe.

LOL, official reviewers having flashed 360's, what planet are you on?!

 

And the banning process you call bullsh*t has been proven many times before, there is only TWO ways a flashed 360 can get banned, 1 - playing a game early before its release date and 2 - not checking your games via abgx360 before playing them, those two ways are the ONLY way you will get banned, 

I have been flashing 360's since 2006, I have flashed loads and only one of these has been banned and that was for playing gears 2 early last year, no other 360's have been banned and I am talking in excess of 150 systems, I have three flashed 360's, my family and friends have them, none have been banned,

Next time do your research before making stupid comments, xbox-scene has all the information you need....

 

 



CaptDS9E said:
Oh they can tell who is using an illegal copy. They aren't stupid

LMAO, that's why they have been banning loads of people with the proper retail game then?



BULLDOGG said:
would if you never played online? but are earning achievments. once you log online dont the acievments have a date you recieved them?

No, if you are not connected to Xbox LIVE when you earn achievements, they do not have dates.



themanwithnoname's law: As an America's sales or NPD thread grows longer, the probabilty of the comment "America = World" [sarcasticly] being made approaches 1.

FKNetwork said:
CaptDS9E said:
Oh they can tell who is using an illegal copy. They aren't stupid

LMAO, that's why they have been banning loads of people with the proper retail game then?

 

Who has been banned with the retail game?

proof?

 

http://twitter.com/Stepto/status/4929023990

 

Don't worry folks, anyone who bought a copy early is ok. In general, if you got a receipt, play away. These are illegit copies we're hitting



Maybe it's the fact that Sony was once on top of the mountain in this industry, and the fall from grace has been swift and brutal. The worst thing about being on top is the fall to the bottom, and maybe the transition from PS2 dominance to PS3 heel-dragging has had a damaging effect on the fanboy psyche, leaving them vulnerable and insecure. Maybe fanboys are suffering from a severe case of paranoid delusion, brought about by denial that the PS3 is in third place when once Sony was leading the charge.

-- Jim Sterling

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themanwithnoname said:
BULLDOGG said:
would if you never played online? but are earning achievments. once you log online dont the acievments have a date you recieved them?

No, if you are not connected to Xbox LIVE when you earn achievements, they do not have dates.


Not true as once you reconnect to Xbox live they can log when achievements were unlocked at Microsofts end.  If you really want to play a game early in complete safety it should be without any memory device connected ideally.



slowmo said:
themanwithnoname said:
BULLDOGG said:
would if you never played online? but are earning achievments. once you log online dont the acievments have a date you recieved them?

No, if you are not connected to Xbox LIVE when you earn achievements, they do not have dates.


Not true as once you reconnect to Xbox live they can log when achievements were unlocked at Microsofts end.  If you really want to play a game early in complete safety it should be without any memory device connected ideally.

Well, I assumed that would be fairly obvious...



themanwithnoname's law: As an America's sales or NPD thread grows longer, the probabilty of the comment "America = World" [sarcasticly] being made approaches 1.

themanwithnoname said:
slowmo said:
themanwithnoname said:
BULLDOGG said:
would if you never played online? but are earning achievments. once you log online dont the acievments have a date you recieved them?

No, if you are not connected to Xbox LIVE when you earn achievements, they do not have dates.


Not true as once you reconnect to Xbox live they can log when achievements were unlocked at Microsofts end.  If you really want to play a game early in complete safety it should be without any memory device connected ideally.

Well, I assumed that would be fairly obvious...


LOL I skim read the prior quote and didn't realise he said if you never played online.  Never forget that obvious isn't always peoples strong points.



yo_john117 said:
madskillz said:
ajaghvajagh said:
Doesn't this apply to every game that gets played before the release date?

No. You have journalist, bloggers, game testers, devs, their friends who have access to early copies. As stated, I have Lips 2 and Forza 3 - and had ODST, Beatles: Rock Band, Godfather 2, Halo Wars (a month out) and Halo 3 before release. You can also see the game listed on profiles (before release) and you can see achievements, but you can't see what they unlocked.

I have been on LIVE for 5 years and have been getting early stuff for the past 3-4 years. I have never, ever gotten an e-mail like that.

Just a question buy how do you get so many games early?  Do you know someone that knows someone?

I'm a journalist and blog at the Houston Chronicle, the 7th biggest paper in the country. I started getting early stuff from MS back when I was in New Mexico. I asked them to give us early copies so we could have a review in place before the game releases. And after a while, they sent me games early. It depends on the tier you are in - you could be a blog that gets a few million hits and they'll send you the game early. If you are a popular video game mag, you'll likely have a couple debug kits - consoles that will play early versions of the game that won't play on regular consoles. Plus, since their leadtime from story to print is large, they get first dibs on early games. Wonder why Game Informer has video game reviews of games that aren't released yet? That's how they do it.

With newspapers, the turnaround time is much, much shorter, so they will dispatch games a week or two before the game releases - sometimes. I do get games the day of release, and sometimes we get games just because. I got flooded with all sorts of games after my Beatles: Rock Band review ran in print (in Houston and San Antonio) and online.

Do I know folks in the industry? Yeah - I know a few - but in the end, if you have proven yourself to be a good reviewer who does an outstanding job, you request a game, you'll get it.

And your achievements do show up online, but most times, it shows up as the game (Like I have Forza 3 achievements) but you can't tell what achievements have been unlocked. And yes, MS knows if it's a pirated copy of the game or not, especially if you play it early. Forza 3 doesn't drop until Oct. 27th, so if you aren't on a safe list, and the code you are playing on was flagged as pirated, good luck with that.



kowenicki said:
So if my game arrives in the post tomorrow... 2 days early... can i play safely or not?

I have just been told that due to the postal strike later this week my game has been despatched early. I will have it tomorrow or Thursday morning at the latest.

?

Of course. Believe you me - they know where the leak came from - and can even pinpoint who got the copy. I know when I did beta testing for Atari on Test Drive Unlimited, they tracked every - I mean EVERY copy of the game. Someone posted the build online and let folks download it. Oh, they found out who did it and he was out permanently.

They are just addressing piracy, not the retail version.