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sully1311 on 15 October 2009
waron said:
phinch1 said:
waron said:
i would care if those were live concerts, but music videos? last time i actually watched MV was like 4-5 years ago.

the last time you watched a music video was 4-5 years ago? not even on youtube or at a friends house? ......I think thats utter bull

i never watched MV on internet i listen to mp3s - watching MV on pc or console is waste of time.

i watched short clips of MVs when i change tv channels, but i never watched intentionally MVs for atleast 4-5 years. i can at the same time listen to the same music and read or somethin - so why bother watching someone who fakes singing to the music?

i like watching live concerts, but MVs? what's the point.


your the first person ive heard that doesnt like/watch music videos



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JaggedSac on 15 October 2009

^^Make that two. I actually have a ton of live concert DVDs though. Tool might be the only music videos I would watch.



themanwithnoname on 15 October 2009

Make that three. Considering the only current band that I really listen to is Muse, and most of their videos are weird as hell anyway, I don't watch them that often.



themanwithnoname's law: As an America's sales or NPD thread grows longer, the probabilty of the comment "America = World" [sarcasticly] being made approaches 1.

sully1311 on 15 October 2009

wow, ill shut up then



De85 on 15 October 2009
sully1311 said:
CaptDS9E said:
Yeah because that Live structure really hurt Netflix .lol


netflix is only us remember. not here in the uk/eu

What's your point?  Netflix does streaming, therefore vidzone could do streaming if they wanted to. It is possible, the technology is there.



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Reasonable on 16 October 2009
De85 said:
sully1311 said:
CaptDS9E said:
Yeah because that Live structure really hurt Netflix .lol


netflix is only us remember. not here in the uk/eu

What's your point?  Netflix does streaming, therefore vidzone could do streaming if they wanted to. It is possible, the technology is there.

this is nothing to do with technical ability.  Right in the guy's quote he makes clear its business.  Vidzone is based on a free content model which the Vidzone guys seem to think wouldn't work on Live due to how live is structured commercially - i.e. there needs to be some form of charge.

I'm sure if MS wanted this they could change stuff, but clearly they're stating that right now, due to how Live works contractually, they don't think their service fits it.

Pretty simple really - I don't know why everyone's going on abot technical capability, etc. because that's obviously got nothing to do with it.  Also, bringing in technically similar services (Netflix) that have a different business model (charge for content) is just as moot too.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

hardyhar on 16 October 2009

Last.fm streaming won't require you to pay any extra fee. It's supposed to be ad-supported just like VidZone, although I have a free Last.fm account and I haven't heard any ads in between songs like you get with VidZone. To the guy that said "Netflix is US only", well VidZone is only available in a few countries in Europe, not the US or Japan, so neither are global services.



JaggedSac on 16 October 2009
hardyhar said:
Last.fm streaming won't require you to pay any extra fee. It's supposed to be ad-supported just like VidZone, although I have a free Last.fm account and I haven't heard any ads in between songs like you get with VidZone. To the guy that said "Netflix is US only", well VidZone is only available in a few countries in Europe, not the US or Japan, so neither are global services.


I thought I remembered hearing Live.fm would be ad supported.



hardyhar on 16 October 2009

Yeah, it probably will be unless you pay for a premium account, but the point I was making is that it's not really that much different from VidZone in terms of the business model - free streaming, but supported by adverts. The difference is that you can pay $3 per month to make it ad-free, which VidZone doesn't offer.



JaggedSac on 16 October 2009
hardyhar said:
Yeah, it probably will be unless you pay for a premium account, but the point I was making is that it's not really that much different from VidZone in terms of the business model - free streaming, but supported by adverts. The difference is that you can pay $3 per month to make it ad-free, which VidZone doesn't offer.

I wasn't disagreeing with you.  I wasn't certain if Live.fm would be ad-supported or not, and you just told me.

It does seem like this VidZone would work if they made a version for Gold members that was ad-supported or something.  I think the main thing is that most people don't give a rats ass about music videos anymore.  None of the music video channels are doing much music video playing now a days because no one gives a shit about them.