The camera in SOTC really ruined it for me

I can't really say since I haven't played any of the Team Ico games. But if the ICO collection ever releases, then I might be able to make a decision. MGS rocks!

Ueda. His games are artsy masterpieces.

And besides, for me it's the best game ever (SotC) versus a top 5 game (MGS3)

Well I've never played ZOE or Policenauts but yes, I would put Ico and SotC above anything of Kojima's that I have played, including the four Metal Gear Solids.

To each its own I guess.......

Ueda is able to convey and entire story/bring out emotions with hardly any spoken words.

Kojima's games have the same effect with a novel of text.

My vote is for Ueda.

I have to go with Mr. Ueda. Kojima is a very intelligent director that adds a lot of good parallels to the modern world in his games without completely forcing them on the player like other more obvious war/political games (ie. Ghost Recon). He also evokes a lot of emotions in his characters, and as a result from his audience. I don't personally like much of the repetition and, at times, melodramatic sequences - but that's more a personal preference than anything wrong with his style.

However, Ueda connects to the gamer on a much more personal level. Not a single word has to be uttered (very very little in SotC) yet he manages to touch you in a way that games can rarely achieve. His games are beautiful, not just aesthetically, technically or gameplay-wise. If you let them they speak to you on a really personal level. It's sublime.

I could go on explaining it but I don't want to get too wordsy.

I say we shouldn't debate about geniuses, we should discuss stupid people and decide which contribute the least to society, and get rid of them. :) *stares at Pachter* lol

well cgi what says you???

Although the MGS series is my favorite series after Zelda, Ueda comes up with better basic gameplay concepts and scenarios than Kojima.

I'd have to give Ueda the nod overall.