So, yeah the show with an average of 10 million overall viewership must peak someone's interest in the forum

All the contestants in the final 12 (now 11)

My favorite out the competition is Olly murs, not the most proficent singer but a hell of a entertainer.

I want john and edward to win just as a big up yours to the whole x factor ideal. Sad thing is though even if they did get the most votes simon would probably rig it for olly, the teacher or the afro guy to win it

Huh.  For some reason I thought this was going to be about

Is this another dumb reality show? If so, then I want no part of it.

Though I would love it to be, my mind thought it was the more crap use of the name.

I'm a Strictly Come Dancing watcher anyway, I'd much prefer to see hot women dance around in tight sexy dresses then some idiots nobodies sing.

the x factor is a sham, talentless n00bs audition in front of equally talentless judges to impress people who have nothing better to do but watch, tbh, they may aswell call it "look how shit music has become, one of these tossers will be xmas no1" with the subtitle "dont worry, most only make 1/2 albums then fuck off with your money"

I think that may be a little harsh. I'm going to own up and admit that I do watch X factor if I'm not doing anything else on a saturday night. I consider myself to have decent taste in tv usually and often only watch shows with strong plots and character developments and I hate most reality tv. Although I can't stand the editing in the X-factors production and fully admit that many contestants are only put through because they make 'good tv' (sob stories ect) at least there are a few in this show with real talent. In fact I would argue that most of the final 12 are better singers than the vast majority of current chart acts and perhaps that speaks more about the state of modern music in general. Many winners of the show do tend to have a very short career but I think that is down to the public who often vote for the wrong reasons, i.e the one they like the most based on looks or 'entertainment' value as opposed to the best singers.

Wow, can't believe I'm actually debating the X-factor .

Hate the show, hate Cheryl fucking Cole, nations princess my ass, learn to sing first!