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Solid_Raiden on 09 October 2009

Wow. The op seems just as bad as the person who gave the game a 3. I agree that rating Halo 3 a 3 is very unrealistic. But to say that anyone who rates the game an 8 or lower is doing it to try and lower the average is just rediculous. I was pretty amazed to see Garnet give Gears of War 2 a score of 5 when it is imo the best game on 360 but it was his opinion and he is a 360 fan and most certainly not a fanboy of any other system. People just have a difference of opinion. But I think you are just as absurd as the people who actually do that because you actually believe that if people diagree with you and the media there is some hidden reason for their rating.




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Fame_Mcswagg on 09 October 2009
miz1q2w3e said:
Fame_Mcswagg said:

know a games good??? I don't know any game is good until I play it.... There was some pretty low scores with the other games that I didn't agree with but when people give reasoning behind there scores how can you not count them?


if you think a game's good then that's your opinion and you may have seen something in it noone else could, but when you say a game's bad when the majority of THE WORLD says it's good... i dunno, look at it how you wish

it's really difficult to tell who does this, i'm not saying anyone who doesn't think a game is all that great is a liar. but even if i don't like a particualr game you don't see me stomping all over people's joy and excitement for a game by saying: "hey i hate this game, it sucks!!". there really is never a need for that really.

like i personally don't like Shooters, so therefore i won't enjoy any of the following games: Halo, The Conduit, Killzone, Gears... etc, but you'll never find me posting negative comments in threads about these games. it's just in bad taste and uncalled for. why ruin someone's joy? i know not everyone like the games i like so i appreciate that most people don't just go around posting bad stuff about them :)

that's just what i think, no need to agree ;)

fair enough. With respect to anyone who has voted in the vgchartz game ranking threads.. The OP posted the rules and for the most part I think it is going really well. People who are voting usually give reasons why they feel a certain way about a game. As a matter of fact I would say that thread he has started is the best series of threads I ever participated in on this website. but with you I can see your point I just see it differently.



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silicon on 09 October 2009

It's the internet... within the Internets exists an internet hate machine... and from this hate machine comes the people that down other peoples favourite games.

Also, if I hate FPS game my opinion of an FPS could be really low which could make me downrate a game. I think it's a person's ego to make them down score a game instead of considering the fact that since they don't like that genre they really shouldn't rate that game because it defeats the purpose of rating the game or

There's two sides to this problem... as someone who's going to college you can appreciate the bell curve. Now consider that this curve applies to peoples gaming preferences. It doesn't matter if someone hates a game... if the game is good the average will be higher in general. Now the person who really loves the game is most likely in the same percentile as the person that hates it. Not everyone has to love the game and it's also okay for some people to hate the game.



ironman on 09 October 2009

Here's something shocking...what about the people who purposely rate their favourite game higher than it should be???



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miz1q2w3e on 09 October 2009
Carl2291 said:
miz1q2w3e said:


Ya but what about most people's opinions and people you trust? are you telling me you trust no one?! not even yourself? if you truly know a game's good then you should trust yourself too you know

like with GTA4 a lot of reviewers gave it high scores but the gaming community had it's own opinion, and i also have friends who i trust their opinions, they said it was great (fantastic even) but maybe reviewers went too high with all those 10s. and I played it a bit, not enough to review it but enough to get an idea, and i think the game is great and it has huge production values... i just don't like shooting or the gta formula in general, but i can honestly say that it's a good game :)

BUT i won't go around scoring GTA4 a score like 8 or 7 KNOWING that it will lower that game's average just cuz i don't like it... that would just be mean, nasty and dishonest

Are you saying people should rate the game on other people's opinion, not there own?


Let me ask you this, who's more likely to be more biased, one person or the entire gaming community and reviewers... etc?

but let make an example, i don't like shooters (like i said in another reply) therefore i most likely won't enjoy them, but i don't go around hating on other peple's favourite games :) and i don't think i would let myself vote in a shooter game rating pole, why? cuz i would be biased considering the fact that i don't like shooters.

apply that logic to people who don't like a certain franchise or a certain console.



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miz1q2w3e on 09 October 2009
Solid_Raiden said:
Wow. The op seems just as bad as the person who gave the game a 3. I agree that rating Halo 3 a 3 is very unrealistic. But to say that anyone who rates the game an 8 or lower is doing it to try and lower the average is just rediculous. I was pretty amazed to see Garnet give Gears of War 2 a score of 5 when it is imo the best game on 360 but it was his opinion and he is a 360 fan and most certainly not a fanboy of any other system. People just have a difference of opinion. But I think you are just as absurd as the people who actually do that because you actually believe that if people diagree with you and the media there is some hidden reason for their rating.


i'm not saying everybody does this, quite the contrary, most people rate games fairly and media too, but take that 3 score for mario galaxy as an example, can you honestly say that you feel that the 3 score could be justified? honestly?? at what point do you say that it just isn't justified?



Fame_Mcswagg on 09 October 2009
miz1q2w3e said:
Carl2291 said:
miz1q2w3e said:


Ya but what about most people's opinions and people you trust? are you telling me you trust no one?! not even yourself? if you truly know a game's good then you should trust yourself too you know

like with GTA4 a lot of reviewers gave it high scores but the gaming community had it's own opinion, and i also have friends who i trust their opinions, they said it was great (fantastic even) but maybe reviewers went too high with all those 10s. and I played it a bit, not enough to review it but enough to get an idea, and i think the game is great and it has huge production values... i just don't like shooting or the gta formula in general, but i can honestly say that it's a good game :)

BUT i won't go around scoring GTA4 a score like 8 or 7 KNOWING that it will lower that game's average just cuz i don't like it... that would just be mean, nasty and dishonest

Are you saying people should rate the game on other people's opinion, not there own?


Let me ask you this, who's more likely to be more biased, one person or the entire gaming community and reviewers... etc?

but let make an example, i don't like shooters (like i said in another reply) therefore i most likely won't enjoy them, but i don't go around hating on other peple's favourite games :) and i don't think i would let myself vote in a shooter game rating pole, why? cuz i would be biased considering the fact that i don't like shooters.

apply that logic to people who don't like a certain franchise or a certain console.

Thats not really true though. I said I didn't like shooters.. meaning I don't like shooters as a whole. I don't like racers either..the only racer I play is GT and can't really stand anything else. It's not really because I'm Biased. Its because up until this moment I haven't played another racer I enjoyed as much as GT. So if someone said do you like racers I would say no but I like GT. same with shooters. I don't like shooters I liked the original halo and nothing else really excited much to care for the genre. So if I don't like shooters I can't voice my opinion.I never hated on halo 3 I gave it a 8 and explained why. I can't see how giving an 8 is hating.



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miz1q2w3e on 09 October 2009
Fame_Mcswagg said:
miz1q2w3e said:
Fame_Mcswagg said:

know a games good??? I don't know any game is good until I play it.... There was some pretty low scores with the other games that I didn't agree with but when people give reasoning behind there scores how can you not count them?


if you think a game's good then that's your opinion and you may have seen something in it noone else could, but when you say a game's bad when the majority of THE WORLD says it's good... i dunno, look at it how you wish

it's really difficult to tell who does this, i'm not saying anyone who doesn't think a game is all that great is a liar. but even if i don't like a particualr game you don't see me stomping all over people's joy and excitement for a game by saying: "hey i hate this game, it sucks!!". there really is never a need for that really.

like i personally don't like Shooters, so therefore i won't enjoy any of the following games: Halo, The Conduit, Killzone, Gears... etc, but you'll never find me posting negative comments in threads about these games. it's just in bad taste and uncalled for. why ruin someone's joy? i know not everyone like the games i like so i appreciate that most people don't just go around posting bad stuff about them :)

that's just what i think, no need to agree ;)

fair enough. With respect to anyone who has voted in the vgchartz game ranking threads.. The OP posted the rules and for the most part I think it is going really well. People who are voting usually give reasons why they feel a certain way about a game. As a matter of fact I would say that thread he has started is the best series of threads I ever participated in on this website. but with you I can see your point I just see it differently.

ya i love those threads too, but they should take the mode like Orca_Azure suggested, maybe it would be more fair and better represent the vgcharts community

and that way no single bad person can do anything to ruin the thread :)



Fame_Mcswagg on 09 October 2009
miz1q2w3e said:
Fame_Mcswagg said:
miz1q2w3e said:
Fame_Mcswagg said:

know a games good??? I don't know any game is good until I play it.... There was some pretty low scores with the other games that I didn't agree with but when people give reasoning behind there scores how can you not count them?


if you think a game's good then that's your opinion and you may have seen something in it noone else could, but when you say a game's bad when the majority of THE WORLD says it's good... i dunno, look at it how you wish

it's really difficult to tell who does this, i'm not saying anyone who doesn't think a game is all that great is a liar. but even if i don't like a particualr game you don't see me stomping all over people's joy and excitement for a game by saying: "hey i hate this game, it sucks!!". there really is never a need for that really.

like i personally don't like Shooters, so therefore i won't enjoy any of the following games: Halo, The Conduit, Killzone, Gears... etc, but you'll never find me posting negative comments in threads about these games. it's just in bad taste and uncalled for. why ruin someone's joy? i know not everyone like the games i like so i appreciate that most people don't just go around posting bad stuff about them :)

that's just what i think, no need to agree ;)

fair enough. With respect to anyone who has voted in the vgchartz game ranking threads.. The OP posted the rules and for the most part I think it is going really well. People who are voting usually give reasons why they feel a certain way about a game. As a matter of fact I would say that thread he has started is the best series of threads I ever participated in on this website. but with you I can see your point I just see it differently.

ya i love those threads too, but they should take the mode like Orca_Azure suggested, maybe it would be more fair and better represent the vgcharts community

and that way no single bad person can do anything to ruin the thread :)

what did orca_Azure suggest? I missed that one I'm not to up on the happenings of the site.



I'm not martin luther king. I don't have a dream. I have a plan

Sell a man a fish you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish you just ruined a perfect business opportunity.

We didn't emerge out of the stone age because we ran out of stones. Its time to be proactive not reactive.

miz1q2w3e on 09 October 2009
ironman said:
Here's something shocking...what about the people who purposely rate their favourite game higher than it should be???


ya that's bad too. but i remember a while back when ToS2 was out in NA, some guy gave the game a (0/10) so what i saw was lots of people (including me) rating the game a 10 to counter that one guy. i think that pretty much evens itself out, it's bad don't get me wrong, but when something like that does happen you can't help but try to even out the rating.