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Khuutra said:
I'm gratified that Obama is as confused as I am.

Yeah I loved their press response.

Press "we're confused and surprised"

White House PR guy "As are we."



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The Nobel peace prize lost grip on all reality as soon as they gave it to Jimmi Carter...and then to Al Gore...what did either of these people do that actually promoted peace?



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ironman said:
The Nobel peace prize lost grip on all reality as soon as they gave it to Jimmi Carter...and then to Al Gore...what did either of these people do that actually promoted peace?

Jimmy Carter did a lot.  Jimmy Carter's "Carter Center" has funded numerous programs to eliminate disease and hunger in areas where such things could lead to violence.

He also was sent on many peace missions by both Bush and Clinton where he ended up achiveing some good outcomes.



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He's getting it all so easy, it's ridiculous. All this love bombing and cult of personality.

I remember all the thousands of Swedes crying when they heard that the USA got it's first black president. (I puke on such hypocrites)

It's all so pathetic. This makes me uncomfortable and I feel ashamed for the Western world for being such self-haters and commies.



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Kasz216 said:
Orca_Azure said:
Aren't most peace winners just recipients because they speak and 'try' to promote peace? Did MLKJ accomplish anything tangible on a wide scale before earning a prize? It's an award based on effort, not on accomplishing the impossible.

Obama deserves it for bending over backwards trying to quell the anger of the world. That first speech to the muslin world, the ongoing diplomacy with iran and north korea, the talks with russia, and trying to bring both wars to an end instead of starting a new one in the middle east have to be worth something.

While the idea of true peace is but a fleeting dream, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who has used his standing in the world to try to achieve it more than obama.

Actually MLK DID do a lot of wide scale tangiable things before he won the peace prize.

Look up the Birmingham Campaign.

He was also at it for much more then a year... did much more with much more agaisnt him.

For example... he was jailed during said Birmingham campaign in 1963 and still worked against those who jailed him.


To compare Obama with MLK is outright ridiculious.

 

Also actually i could name many people who've done more.  For example the afore mentioned Morgan Tsvianni.

I'm quite aware of Morgan Tsvangirai's (tsvianni) accompishments in Zimbabwe. He's indeed been through a lot in trying to fix the corruption that the country is steeped in. His political arrests are reminiscent of past greats like Nelson Mandela. I easily admit that Tsvangirai has been at it for decades longer.  I would still like to remind you, however, that his efforts have been in a rather remote part of the world. I have yet to see him stumping on a global scale for peace, for disarmament, or for anything that truly promtotes worldwide peace.

Perhaps many people want to call it a popularity contest, but in the end of the day obama's name and intentions are far more widely known than Tsvangirai's. You don't hear many leaders using their pulpit try and openly communicate with the rest of the world. While he may be new to the office and still green behind the ears, I still cannot think of anyone who has tried to use his position and "celebrity" to such a grand scale.



Orca_Azure said:
Kasz216 said:
Orca_Azure said:
Aren't most peace winners just recipients because they speak and 'try' to promote peace? Did MLKJ accomplish anything tangible on a wide scale before earning a prize? It's an award based on effort, not on accomplishing the impossible.

Obama deserves it for bending over backwards trying to quell the anger of the world. That first speech to the muslin world, the ongoing diplomacy with iran and north korea, the talks with russia, and trying to bring both wars to an end instead of starting a new one in the middle east have to be worth something.

While the idea of true peace is but a fleeting dream, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who has used his standing in the world to try to achieve it more than obama.

Actually MLK DID do a lot of wide scale tangiable things before he won the peace prize.

Look up the Birmingham Campaign.

He was also at it for much more then a year... did much more with much more agaisnt him.

For example... he was jailed during said Birmingham campaign in 1963 and still worked against those who jailed him.


To compare Obama with MLK is outright ridiculious.

 

Also actually i could name many people who've done more.  For example the afore mentioned Morgan Tsvianni.

I'm quite aware of Morgan Tsvangirai's (tsvianni) accompishments in Zimbabwe. He's indeed been through a lot in trying to fix the corruption that the country is steeped in. His political arrests are reminiscent of past greats like Nelson Mandela. I easily admit that Tsvangirai has been at it for decades longer.  I would still like to remind you, however, that his efforts have been in a rather remote part of the world. I have yet to see him stumping on a global scale for peace, for disarmament, or for anything that truly promtotes worldwide peace.

Perhaps many people want to call it a popularity contest, but in the end of the day obama's name and intentions are far more widely known than Tsvangirai's. You don't hear many leaders using their pulpit try and openly communicate with the rest of the world. While he may be new to the office and still green behind the ears, I still cannot think of anyone who has tried to use his position and "celebrity" to such a grand scale.

Actually you DO here many leaders suing their pulpit to try and openly communicate with the rest of the world.

Pretty much every western leader does that... outside of Bush Jr.  Bill Clinton did for example.

A lot of the stuff you mention were actually done in confrences where other world leaders were doing the same...

Nothing Obama has done even matches Bill Clinton. 



Erm...he doesn't deserve it imo. People who worked their whole lives to achieve this award...all of their extraordinary efforts seem like a joke now.



For those thinking that peace nobel ever means something:

All negotiators of locarno treaty won their nobels.
Hitler was nominated to it. In 1939.
Stalin also was nominated to it. Twice.



Kasz216 said:
ironman said:
The Nobel peace prize lost grip on all reality as soon as they gave it to Jimmi Carter...and then to Al Gore...what did either of these people do that actually promoted peace?

Jimmy Carter did a lot.  Jimmy Carter's "Carter Center" has funded numerous programs to eliminate disease and hunger in areas where such things could lead to violence.

He also was sent on many peace missions by both Bush and Clinton where he ended up achiveing some good outcomes.

Many of those were to bolster his appaerance and push propoganda. And Al gore?



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