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MikeB said:
stika said:
MikeB said:
@ themanwithnoname

Here you are:

http://news.spong.com/article/18155/Lionheads-Project-Natal-Video-Fakery

http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/06/07/exposed-natel-milo-smoke-and-mirrors-by-peter-molyneux/

I take your two no-named websites milo negative previews and raise you two positive IGN and eurogamer previews

I wasn't saying the fake was a bad fake. Note that at VGChartz my initial repsonse was very positive towards Natal.

But IMO they should have waited until they had something real to show. Now it just looked like they wanted to attract interest towards something which still had very little basis. Not good for real existing innovations which get fewer attention at the show.

A quick question for you, were you bashing Sony for doing the exact same thing with its PS3?  I remember the year the 360 was launched Sony was spewing so much fake shit it wasn't funny.  Trying to get people to just wait for their super computer PS3 most awesome c3ll tech invention of all time.  Sigh....

 

Some how I don't think you were.



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Really I'm tired of articles talking about the "possibilities" ...When are we going to find out about compelling software. Because I notice now that they are glossing over the two games that they have been demoing Natal with and talking more about the possibilities.

...It's the same thing that happen with the Wii, peoples imaginations were BIGGER then the actual application gearing themselves up for a letdown. I'm really being to see this here as well.



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huaxiong90 said:
damndl0ser said:
huaxiong90 said:
welshbloke said:
I would not say that the VGC Community consider Natal will fail, it just appears that way due to the large numbers of PS3 supporters and possibly Wii although it does always seem to be PS3 supporters for the most part.

No amount of positive FM3 or Natal press or reviews will prevent them picking out one tiny negative commment, peddling it, exagerating it and ultimately misrepresenting it.

It is unfortunate but every positive Microsoft based thread is matched with an unequal and opposite reaction. That is the science of VGC.

The same could be said about 360 or Wii fanboys who attack PS3 threads.

The difference being there are more PS3 supporters here than there are 360 or wii ones.  Not to mention the hate seems to be mainly focused on Natal and Forza 3.  I don't know if its because it scares a lot of them or what.

I agree with you about Natal, I don't understand the reasons behind the hate either.

 

However, I disagree with you about Forza 3. The reason why PS3 fan(boy)s are hating on Forza 3 is because Turn 10 are being far too cocky about their game and always talking down GT. I personally don't have anything against this, it's only a form of business, but not many people care to look at it from a business perspective, but rather subjectively, so I can't say I blame them. Plus, I see 360 fanboys saying things like "Forza 3>>>>>>GT5" and the sort when the 2 games haven't been released yet, so that only adds to the flames.

Turn 10 came out saying it is the definitive racing game of this generation.  And, from the review scores so far, it has lived up to that.  Was it cockiness or confidence?  The proof is in the results.  When GT5 comes out nearly 6 months later, it'll have an opportunity to prove Turn 10 right or wrong.

As for the PS3 fan(boy)s, to have the 360 come out with a game that is claiming to be better than one of the Playstation pillars is just something that they can't handle, be it true or not.  I think that has more to do with the FM3 hate than Turn 10's statements.



damndl0ser said:
MikeB said:
stika said:
MikeB said:
@ themanwithnoname

Here you are:

http://news.spong.com/article/18155/Lionheads-Project-Natal-Video-Fakery

http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/06/07/exposed-natel-milo-smoke-and-mirrors-by-peter-molyneux/

I take your two no-named websites milo negative previews and raise you two positive IGN and eurogamer previews

I wasn't saying the fake was a bad fake. Note that at VGChartz my initial repsonse was very positive towards Natal.

But IMO they should have waited until they had something real to show. Now it just looked like they wanted to attract interest towards something which still had very little basis. Not good for real existing innovations which get fewer attention at the show.

A quick question for you, were you bashing Sony for doing the exact same thing with its PS3?  I remember the year the 360 was launched Sony was spewing so much fake shit it wasn't funny.  Trying to get people to just wait for their super computer PS3 most awesome c3ll tech invention of all time.  Sigh....

 

Some how I don't think you were.

Heh heh.  Now that's how you do it.

@MikeB

To  be completely fair, Microsoft HAD to show it this early to give developers time to work out ideas on how to implement it and, smartly, to give proper time for interest to seep into the public conciousness so that when it does get closer to launch even more people will be aware that its coming and had been anticipating it for a long, long time.

And what are those "real existing innovations" (since you don't feel Natal is one) that got overlooked at E3 2009?



MikeB said:

I think if Microsoft would be an Iranian company, the company would have received a lot more bashing for its wrongdoings. IMO Microsoft has been handled very mildly considering events. I don't think Sony or any other Japanese company would have been able to bypass RROD or antitrust issues like Microsoft was able to.

American car companies usually get more bad press in America than their Korean or Japanese counterparts.  Similarly I've never seen anything to suggest that the American and UK press cut Microsoft a break because they are American.  Yet you keep insisting that their is a US/UK press conspiracy against Sony and in favor of Microsoft.  You've previously never justified why in the past, now you imply its for some patriotic reason.  Meanwhile US press on the Walkman, Trinitron technology, the PS2 etc never got accused of being purposefully slanted like you say coverage is now.  The reality is that you just can't agree with any views on the PS3 that are not your own.



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o man, i want that first part of the video as a signature gif. That employee guy sliding around is awesome.



This looks good so far.



 

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by awesome, I mean ridiculously stupid



Natal seems to interest me more.



From what i have seen, its just an improved eyetoy clone.
From what i have heard, it could change the way of gaming itself.

Probably something with potential....



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