No agreeing with a thread or article is and should not be bannable.  

And your not fucked in GT5:P if you hit a wall (what i'm trying to point out here is that he was right about GT5:P being bumper cars like for online cause there's no penalty for slamming into a wall, unlike F2 were you were pretty much fucked for the rest of the race, however the rest of GT5:P is definitely sim like)

If you were gonna ban for those two comments you minus will ban 90% of the people in this thread

Nope. You get penalties for slamming on the wall or other cars in GT5P.

Not visually or mechanically but the time penalty is enough to f**k your rest of the race up.

Some people like to be childish and blame Polyphony for GT PSP delaying GT5. It's bullshit, because GTPSP is based off of last gen tech and porting the engine over to a smaller device. GT5 has been in the works since the last official GT console game shipped. That too long of an amount of time, but if we get 1000 cars a bunch of tracks and more then whatever. The definitive Racing game should not take this long to make.

Ah well there you go I guess.  

It's just the ignorance in this thread. Anyone who says gran turismo is not a racing sim is out of their minds. Thats _ALL_ gran turismo is. And a very very good one. Physics for crashing were not possible when GT came out on the playstation 2. At least with the scope of what GT had.

Along comes many games with good damage, then forza 2 has good damage, great damage actually.. and thats good.

The main point? Damage in forza 3 is barely an improvement over forza 2, if at all.
Slamming into walls is still not realistic at all.
You can still bump into people and keep driving.
You can still grind the wall, you'll just loose some paint and slow down.

It's not so much of a big deal, we are still years away from realistic damage modeling, its hard enough to recreate a SPECIFIC crash realistically! Let alone on the go.

Case in point, Turn 10 made a breathtaking game. Its fantastic.

But let me explain something to you.
The racing sim aspects of Forza 3 are NOT what makes it great.

What makes Forza 3 so great is how it goes FAR BEYOND a racing sim. If you compare the racing sim aspects to GT5 I am sure it will be inferior, its impossible for that not to be the case.

Forza 3 however, offers the most amazing career mode i've ever played, a technical marvel of a livery editor, and amazing community aspects.

The leveling up of your car and character is so fucking cool. and the tuning is un matched.

Forza 3 is a lot more than racing sim, its the sum of its parts that make it great. GT has a long way to go to offer that kind of experience.

But when it comes to JUST driving, i have absolutely no doubt that GT5 will be far superior, and everyone should. They have spent 5 years working out every last bit of how each individual car works in every situation.

Forza 3........What are the Pre order sales like? 150 k?
Didn't prologue have alot more pre-orders the week before its release?

Seriosly you Xbot Fans are flaming yourself. GT 5 Never Attacks other franchises as maliciously as turn 10, The Weaker dog always barks the most. When Gears launched evr1 went crazy nobody had to hype it up it did not slag the competition at all. in fact Epic often complement other developers they did not have to bash resistance because truth be told is was just the best damm game out there.

Forza is a different story. Most GT Fans are happy with the franchise, they only have 2 complaints mainly how long they take to release, damage is not such a big deal as you guys seem to make out. People bitch about it buts it not a game breaker. But Forza's only existence is too rip off GT?

Do you guys know what happens to politicians who always bash the current government, evr1 hears their rants but in reality very few people actually vote for them. Forza is a goog game but these developers are only shooting themselves in the foot anyone with a basic understaning of marketing 101 should know this.

I find it more like an arcade racer then a sim to be honest

in terms of straight sims he is right as far as console games there isn't any sims of GT cars out yet and if GT follows the usual rule it will not equal forza in term of simulation (only talking about handling and tuning here) GT might be graphically better with more cars,tracks and all but I have yet to see one do better in the sim area than forza... if it does good for the PS owners... it won't be by a mile anyway so does it really matter at the end...??

any fps right so lets pit Halo against modern warfare 2 on xbox 360 no ps3 sales or any other handheld/console. mw2 vs halo 3 sales on xbox 360 and then lets talk. i bet mw2 wont exceed halo 3 which is to date the highest selling title on xbox 360 and a fps. plz dont post without thinking like some people do.

elticker you are.......OFF TOPIC!!!!! HEADSLAM +1