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"Looking at the entire home video market, Blu-ray represented 12% of the market revenue, up 5.5% from the same period last year."

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=3516



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holy shit, 12% of 22B$ or so is a pretty big number.



Studios want more sales? make better movies. Better movie not selling? Stop overpaying actors to be in your movie to lower your budgets.

It is unbelievable how much the top actors make. And movie budgets are easily twice as high as they should be because of it.



superchunk said:
I love redbox. Its the only way I get movies now.

I may have to try Redbox myself. i usually buy most of my DVD's. I need to start selling a lot of them or giving some away to my relatives. It's still a pain in the butt to have to run out and rent a movie. Netfliks may be a good alternative online. I don't like to pay for a movie over and over again just to watch it over then once though. I've watched my Aliens, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Spiderman, etc.. DVD at least 8-10 times since owning them. If I have rented them at Blockbusters that would be $32-$40 I spent on a DVD.

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theprof00 said:
holy shit, 12% of 22B$ or so is a pretty big number.

I really dont get these stats.

DVD had well over 50 percent of the market at the same point in its lifecycle. Blu Ray has 12 percent

Yet several sources state that Blu Ray is doing better than DVD was at the same point in lifecycle.

Scratches Head.

I guess what they say is true.

There are LIARS there are DAMN LIARS and then there are STATISITICS



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Cypher1980 said:
theprof00 said:
holy shit, 12% of 22B$ or so is a pretty big number.

I really dont get these stats.

DVD had well over 50 percent of the market at the same point in its lifecycle. Blu Ray has 12 percent

Yet several sources state that Blu Ray is doing better than DVD was at the same point in lifecycle.

Scratches Head.

I guess what they say is true.

There are LIARS there are DAMN LIARS and then there are STATISITICS

THe worst part of the statistics is they're usually based off top 20 sales. It's probably even worse than if video game sales were based off of top 20, because there are tens of thousands of titles not in the top 20.



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.

.jayderyu said:
ironman said:

Rich. We have the format wars, and a non-contender comes from behind to knock out the winner. Now that is irony.

LOL, this isn't irony. This is the way the universe works. It's always has been and always will be. In all sorts of business everywhere. Barnum and Bailies circus trounced by Circus De Soliel. Big Wood radio boxes by crappy transistor radios of Sony. TSR D&D by WotC MtG. Nintendo & Sega by Sony PS1. MS & Sony by Wii. The non contender that appeals to the consumer convience WINS. Ok yeah it is Irony, but one we should stop being surprised by and expect. 

Also, it's a myth that getting rid of the other guy is the way to win a format war. DVD-R vs DVD+R both won, not by getting rid of the other side, but by hitting the mainstream market. Getting rid of HD-DVD did not do that. It just showed the industry shut out support for that format. The public did not decide they preferred blu-ray. They simply had the option to choose taken away.

But they wouldn't have chosen either. The reason is stagin. Movie film has always been HD (4000x3000), but films were always statged so that people far in the back of the theaters could still see things (like staging for plays, only you have the option of close-ups).

This was the same for TV shows, and people watching far back on their couches.

HD has not change that paradigm. Again, it's about distance, not resolution. Everything relevant is shown to be visible. It's still visible in SD, so putting it in HD won't matter. This is why most viewers don't see the difference. The parts they need to see are still visible no matter the format.

It does help when you can't stage something that way, like sports. But sports games aren't released on blu-ray, as far as I know.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Oh yeah gota chime in to: Redbox for the win.

I haven't bought a DVD in probably close to a year with the exception of the House seasons (out of convience factor) so I pretty much rent every new release that comes out at the Redbox. They even add I think another 4-5 hours so you get like 28 hours to return your DVD. Theres like five within five minute driving distances from me, so returning it is a non-issue. $1 to see a DVD versus $15-$20 to buying a DVD I'll probably only watch once? Case closed.



It's just that simple.

Cypher1980 said:
theprof00 said:
holy shit, 12% of 22B$ or so is a pretty big number.

I really dont get these stats.

DVD had well over 50 percent of the market at the same point in its lifecycle. Blu Ray has 12 percent

Yet several sources state that Blu Ray is doing better than DVD was at the same point in lifecycle.

Scratches Head.

I guess what they say is true.

There are LIARS there are DAMN LIARS and then there are STATISITICS

 

I personally don't like statistics, as they usually aren't the exact numbers, just guesstimates based on a smaller pool.  That doesn't mean they are always an inaccurate depiction of the times, but they can be looked at from any direction to show what you want them to.  But anyway, this marketshare is for software sales.  The stories that say it's doing better at this point in it's life are based on hardware sales.  So in otherwords there have been more Blu-ray players sold than DVD players, if you include consoles, in the same amount of time after their release.  As for software sales, I find it funny when fanboys spout off "facts" like Blu-ray sales are plummeting, when in fact Blu-ray disc sales are up 91% for the first half of 2009.  But it does make sense that it's not a bigger number, considering that Blu-ray players can play both DVD and Blu-ray, while with DVD players you had only one format to choose from.  So if there is a movie that is not on Blu-ray yet, that will weigh in favor of DVD.  As will movies that people feel won't show off the potential of Blu-ray, so they buy it on DVD.  Either way, the fact remains that DVD sales are going down, while Blu-ray sales go up.  So, it's pretty safe to say it's here to stay, and remain along with DD and rental service.



"when in fact Blu-ray disc sales are up 91% for the first half of 2009"

That was blu-ray spending overall, not disc sales.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs