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Reasonable on 30 September 2009
Pyramid Head said:
@Reasonable

that is true about offending retailers, but what could they do? stop selling games?

Personally, I'd like them to offend the retailers and make all digitial content cheaper than physical!  At least they should price follow physical retailers for older games and make sure the reduced price in a store is relfected online.

 



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Pyramid Head on 30 September 2009
Reasonable said:
Pyramid Head said:
@Reasonable

that is true about offending retailers, but what could they do? stop selling games?

Personally, I'd like them to offend the retailers and make all digitial content cheaper than physical!  At least they should price follow physical retailers for older games and make sure the reduced price in a store is relfected online.

 

It probobly could work both ways

They still sell cds and those are all over online

movies as well.

though maybe theyre dying over that stuff, im not sure as i havent followed it tooo much



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dorbin2009 on 30 September 2009

I'm not quite sure if your reasoning justifies what you want. These companies would learn regardless of who finishes first. To be fair, the 360 has been ahead of PS3 since it was even first announced. Even if , lets say a year from now the numbers look something like

360 : 40 million
PS3 : 40.6 million

I really don't think that Microsoft is going to look at their online service, which currently grants them over 500m + in revenue a month, and say "Gee, this really isn't working for me, I need to change it up". Personally, as a gold member of the service, I don't mind paying for what I view is a premium product.

As for the On Demand products; yes I agree with you. However consider that the service has been online for two months now. There is a lot of room for change.

Plus lets not forget the 800 pound gorilla in the room. The Wii blasted both of them away in sales. I think that teaches both companies more of a lesson than whomever winds up with the silver medal.



JokerJester on 30 September 2009

I think its just SONY Playstation is more popular that 360 plus the word of mouth for PS will make it boom in the console industry,

As for Wii i guess people just got anxious of the new released console and got tired of the games on PS3 and 360 based IMO :)



richardhutnik on 30 September 2009
Pyramid Head said:

I saw a thread just now about if you care if 360 beats PS3.  I don't really in the grand scheme of things, but I would like to see them tie for a few reasons:

MS would learn and possibly correct the following:

1.  The only system charging people for online play.

2.  A mountain of overpriced things on xbox live (for example in some cases of old games, the map packs cost more than the boxed game)

3.  The 'On Demand' games service pricing model (GRAW = 40 dollars on xbox live, or 10 new across the street from my house).  Theoretically games with no manufacturing costs are not 4 times the price.

Sony would learn a few things too:

1.  Having a bit more western focused games is a good thing.

2.  Lower prices WILL lead to success (see the new psp for evidence they are not learning)

Those are some quick points off the top of my head, but the key point is BOTH companies would add more value, and put more effort into their products.  It's best for everyone if the systems tie, not if one wins.  Because if there's only one system, our hobby will get a lot more pricey.

A problem here, is that it is HIGHLY doubtful that Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, etc... bother to read what people think here, and thus your "lesson learned" won't matter much at all, particularly if it is Nintendo that ends up winning, which is likely.  End result the "lesson" supposedly "learned" by Microsoft is "Waggle is EVERYTHING!" so this, Natal will be the prefer controller set up from now on.  Charging for people to play online isn't going to be learned here.

As for a "Western focus", explain how Sony didn't try to be "Western focused" with the PS3?  I see a lack of JRPGs and an overfocus on FPS (to steal the XBox's strength) was a factor in why Sony ended up losing Japan to the Wii, for much of this generation. 



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5ozOFpain on 30 September 2009

the gap is not 8mil,,,anymore...watch out xbox fanboys! psp go is the best hand held console ever made and to say it is inferior to any other handheld is a mistake and ignorance that is not backed by factual evidence.



Sorcery on 30 September 2009

Microsoft is not going to abandon pay-to-play. At $50 a year with well over 10 million Xbox Live gold subscriptions, they're pulling in an additional half a billion dollars of revenue per year. Over the course of the generation that's over $2 billion they'll probably make. If anything, Sony and Nintendo should charge too.



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5ozOFpain on 30 September 2009

No they shouldn't. Ps3 and the WII will always think "GAMER" first. M$ targets 11-14 year old so the parents would have no choice but to pay for the service. Grown Man play Ps3. it is all about the gaming exp. and u upto 62 online...actualy 256 with MAg. sorry it is the truth.



Pyramid Head on 30 September 2009
5ozOFpain said:
the gap is not 8mil,,,anymore...watch out xbox fanboys! psp go is the best hand held console ever made and to say it is inferior to any other handheld is a mistake and ignorance that is not backed by factual evidence.

the best hand held console ever made eh?

 



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The Anarchyz on 30 September 2009
richardhutnik said:
Pyramid Head said:

I saw a thread just now about if you care if 360 beats PS3.  I don't really in the grand scheme of things, but I would like to see them tie for a few reasons:

MS would learn and possibly correct the following:

1.  The only system charging people for online play.

2.  A mountain of overpriced things on xbox live (for example in some cases of old games, the map packs cost more than the boxed game)

3.  The 'On Demand' games service pricing model (GRAW = 40 dollars on xbox live, or 10 new across the street from my house).  Theoretically games with no manufacturing costs are not 4 times the price.

Sony would learn a few things too:

1.  Having a bit more western focused games is a good thing.

2.  Lower prices WILL lead to success (see the new psp for evidence they are not learning)

Those are some quick points off the top of my head, but the key point is BOTH companies would add more value, and put more effort into their products.  It's best for everyone if the systems tie, not if one wins.  Because if there's only one system, our hobby will get a lot more pricey.

A problem here, is that it is HIGHLY doubtful that Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, etc... bother to read what people think here, and thus your "lesson learned" won't matter much at all, particularly if it is Nintendo that ends up winning, which is likely.  End result the "lesson" supposedly "learned" by Microsoft is "Waggle is EVERYTHING!" so this, Natal will be the prefer controller set up from now on.  Charging for people to play online isn't going to be learned here.

As for a "Western focus", explain how Sony didn't try to be "Western focused" with the PS3?  I see a lack of JRPGs and an overfocus on FPS (to steal the XBox's strength) was a factor in why Sony ended up losing Japan to the Wii, for much of this generation. 

I still remember E3 2008 where Microsoft big news were JRPGs and Sony's big news were shooters and action games... I went "so who is the western console here?"