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Dgc1808 on 30 September 2009
dtewi said:
Wait until more reviews come in. Honestly, don't get too excited everyone. Remember GTA and MGS?

Uhh.. no...

What about MGS?
Which MGS???

Can't be MGS4...
Fans loved it
Critics loved it
All 3 rating things on gamefaqs are above 90.

What are you takling abuot here? 



4 ≈ One

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Zucas on 30 September 2009
McClaren said:
Zucas said:
Well although I'm very happy that many are excited for Uncharted 2 and glad reviewers think it is good, this is kinda silly. I know most people are familiar with this, but I'll state it again anyways. Generally publishers ask that if you review a game before release, that the score be something rather positive. Meaning they don't want reviewers giving bad reviews before it comes out to not give the game "negative" hype. Of course this goes against everything a critic is supposed to do, it is how it works.

What that means, is well before launch, such as this, publishers try to get review copies out as early as possible and encourage that they review it well early such that they can use it in extended advertising. What this means is, generally, all early reviews are going to be positive and have good scores. Which is why most scores always go down after release and not up. After the release occurs, those that had been held back for whatever reason release their scores which drives down the overall average. Thus looking at the metacritic score right now may be appealing but in no way reflective.

We are all excited for Uncharted 2 and hope that it gets reviewed with marvelous scores, but this not the proper way to do it. Especially on stacked evidence fallacies haha. Let's see how the ratings are a week or 2 after launch and we'll go from there. But traditionally games that are in that range will be in the low to mid 90s at the end of it all like MakingMusic stated. There are only very rare cases where this doesn't happen such as Galaxy but we aren't talking about the norm there.

I'm only saying this because, getting hopes up under silly premises is not a good thing. Instead we should glorify in the already good reviews and just use that as a way to get personally hyped for the game on Oct 13 instead of using it as a way to deduce anything falsely. Of course I know, don't bring the logic in here. Sorry but it's a habit haha.


Everything you said is correct. But something is different Imo since even Eurogamer absolutely loves it.

Haha that just means even despite biases they can see it as good.  But we all know that, logically, we can't deduce that about everyone or assume that everyone reviewing is simply doing it based on fanboy guilt or fanboy love.  Nor actually could we assume that about Eurogamer.  As I said it's best to take that just as yes the game is awesome considering even these guys think it is good. 



zexen_lowe on 30 September 2009
Riot Of The Blood said:
CGI-Quality said:
Riot Of The Blood said:
I'm buying day one, but the hype for this at VGchartz is stupidly high.

Huh, you must have missed the Killzone 2 hype.

Regardless, I don't get the fuss over hype. Hype generates excitement, excitement generates discussions, and thus gamers are HEAVILY infromed, helping the industry to progress in a sense. If you ask me, hype is good, I hope to see it continue!

People still had some sense left with Killzone, but people are comparing Uncharted 2 with FFVII!

The hype doesn't bother me, it's just one of those wow things.

And Torillian's post holds more and more truth within

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=2656106

Seriously, it was ONE PERSON, not PEOPLE

 

I wanna play this game




--OkeyDokey-- on 30 September 2009

@ Zucas

It has 20 reviews so far. It's not likely to drop below 96 now, which is the score I predicted last week (and I thought I was being optimistic...)



Zucas on 30 September 2009
--OkeyDokey-- said:
@ Zucas

It has 20 reviews so far. It's not likely to drop below 96 now, which is the score I predicted last week (and I thought I was being optimistic...)

Hey after 20 reviews Zelda: TP was well around 99% on it's critical rating.  It ended at the 95 area and on GR at the 94 range.  The point is early reviews, although good, can't be completely representative for the reasons I stated.  In popular terms, "shit happens".  But I do think it'll be in the 94-96 range because it seems to deserve that quality but reviewers never cease to surprise me.  Well the media in general doesn't.



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McClaren on 30 September 2009
Zucas said:
McClaren said:
Zucas said:
Well although I'm very happy that many are excited for Uncharted 2 and glad reviewers think it is good, this is kinda silly. I know most people are familiar with this, but I'll state it again anyways. Generally publishers ask that if you review a game before release, that the score be something rather positive. Meaning they don't want reviewers giving bad reviews before it comes out to not give the game "negative" hype. Of course this goes against everything a critic is supposed to do, it is how it works.

What that means, is well before launch, such as this, publishers try to get review copies out as early as possible and encourage that they review it well early such that they can use it in extended advertising. What this means is, generally, all early reviews are going to be positive and have good scores. Which is why most scores always go down after release and not up. After the release occurs, those that had been held back for whatever reason release their scores which drives down the overall average. Thus looking at the metacritic score right now may be appealing but in no way reflective.

We are all excited for Uncharted 2 and hope that it gets reviewed with marvelous scores, but this not the proper way to do it. Especially on stacked evidence fallacies haha. Let's see how the ratings are a week or 2 after launch and we'll go from there. But traditionally games that are in that range will be in the low to mid 90s at the end of it all like MakingMusic stated. There are only very rare cases where this doesn't happen such as Galaxy but we aren't talking about the norm there.

I'm only saying this because, getting hopes up under silly premises is not a good thing. Instead we should glorify in the already good reviews and just use that as a way to get personally hyped for the game on Oct 13 instead of using it as a way to deduce anything falsely. Of course I know, don't bring the logic in here. Sorry but it's a habit haha.


Everything you said is correct. But something is different Imo since even Eurogamer absolutely loves it.

Haha that just means even despite biases they can see it as good.  But we all know that, logically, we can't deduce that about everyone or assume that everyone reviewing is simply doing it based on fanboy guilt or fanboy love.  Nor actually could we assume that about Eurogamer.  As I said it's best to take that just as yes the game is awesome considering even these guys think it is good. 

With this review out of the way it shouldn't drop more than 2 points. The only way I see it dropping below 96 is if reviewers just give it a bad score to get attention.



Riot Of The Blood on 30 September 2009
zexen_lowe said:
Riot Of The Blood said:
CGI-Quality said:
Riot Of The Blood said:
I'm buying day one, but the hype for this at VGchartz is stupidly high.

Huh, you must have missed the Killzone 2 hype.

Regardless, I don't get the fuss over hype. Hype generates excitement, excitement generates discussions, and thus gamers are HEAVILY infromed, helping the industry to progress in a sense. If you ask me, hype is good, I hope to see it continue!

People still had some sense left with Killzone, but people are comparing Uncharted 2 with FFVII!

The hype doesn't bother me, it's just one of those wow things.

And Torillian's post holds more and more truth within

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=2656106

Seriously, it was ONE PERSON, not PEOPLE

 

I wanna play this game

The craziest things are always going to be the first things remembered.



I am Washu-bot B, loyal servant of Final-Fan, the greatest scientific genius in the universe!


Zucas on 30 September 2009
McClaren said:
Zucas said:
McClaren said:
Zucas said:
Well although I'm very happy that many are excited for Uncharted 2 and glad reviewers think it is good, this is kinda silly. I know most people are familiar with this, but I'll state it again anyways. Generally publishers ask that if you review a game before release, that the score be something rather positive. Meaning they don't want reviewers giving bad reviews before it comes out to not give the game "negative" hype. Of course this goes against everything a critic is supposed to do, it is how it works.

What that means, is well before launch, such as this, publishers try to get review copies out as early as possible and encourage that they review it well early such that they can use it in extended advertising. What this means is, generally, all early reviews are going to be positive and have good scores. Which is why most scores always go down after release and not up. After the release occurs, those that had been held back for whatever reason release their scores which drives down the overall average. Thus looking at the metacritic score right now may be appealing but in no way reflective.

We are all excited for Uncharted 2 and hope that it gets reviewed with marvelous scores, but this not the proper way to do it. Especially on stacked evidence fallacies haha. Let's see how the ratings are a week or 2 after launch and we'll go from there. But traditionally games that are in that range will be in the low to mid 90s at the end of it all like MakingMusic stated. There are only very rare cases where this doesn't happen such as Galaxy but we aren't talking about the norm there.

I'm only saying this because, getting hopes up under silly premises is not a good thing. Instead we should glorify in the already good reviews and just use that as a way to get personally hyped for the game on Oct 13 instead of using it as a way to deduce anything falsely. Of course I know, don't bring the logic in here. Sorry but it's a habit haha.


Everything you said is correct. But something is different Imo since even Eurogamer absolutely loves it.

Haha that just means even despite biases they can see it as good.  But we all know that, logically, we can't deduce that about everyone or assume that everyone reviewing is simply doing it based on fanboy guilt or fanboy love.  Nor actually could we assume that about Eurogamer.  As I said it's best to take that just as yes the game is awesome considering even these guys think it is good. 

With this review out of the way it shouldn't drop more than 2 points. The only way I see it dropping below 96 is if reviewers just give it a bad score to get attention.

I point once again to Zelda: TP haha.  Remember we are dealing with the media here.  Of course I'm sure there are going to be some who don't like it as much but you can always tell when it's a real review or simply one looking for hits and controversy. 



zexen_lowe on 30 September 2009
Riot Of The Blood said:
zexen_lowe said:
Riot Of The Blood said:
CGI-Quality said:
Riot Of The Blood said:
I'm buying day one, but the hype for this at VGchartz is stupidly high.

Huh, you must have missed the Killzone 2 hype.

Regardless, I don't get the fuss over hype. Hype generates excitement, excitement generates discussions, and thus gamers are HEAVILY infromed, helping the industry to progress in a sense. If you ask me, hype is good, I hope to see it continue!

People still had some sense left with Killzone, but people are comparing Uncharted 2 with FFVII!

The hype doesn't bother me, it's just one of those wow things.

And Torillian's post holds more and more truth within

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=2656106

Seriously, it was ONE PERSON, not PEOPLE

 

I wanna play this game

The craziest things are always going to be the first things remembered.

I still wanna know where the PEOPLE came from, though




McClaren on 30 September 2009
Zucas said:
McClaren said:
Zucas said:
McClaren said:
Zucas said:
Well although I'm very happy that many are excited for Uncharted 2 and glad reviewers think it is good, this is kinda silly. I know most people are familiar with this, but I'll state it again anyways. Generally publishers ask that if you review a game before release, that the score be something rather positive. Meaning they don't want reviewers giving bad reviews before it comes out to not give the game "negative" hype. Of course this goes against everything a critic is supposed to do, it is how it works.

What that means, is well before launch, such as this, publishers try to get review copies out as early as possible and encourage that they review it well early such that they can use it in extended advertising. What this means is, generally, all early reviews are going to be positive and have good scores. Which is why most scores always go down after release and not up. After the release occurs, those that had been held back for whatever reason release their scores which drives down the overall average. Thus looking at the metacritic score right now may be appealing but in no way reflective.

We are all excited for Uncharted 2 and hope that it gets reviewed with marvelous scores, but this not the proper way to do it. Especially on stacked evidence fallacies haha. Let's see how the ratings are a week or 2 after launch and we'll go from there. But traditionally games that are in that range will be in the low to mid 90s at the end of it all like MakingMusic stated. There are only very rare cases where this doesn't happen such as Galaxy but we aren't talking about the norm there.

I'm only saying this because, getting hopes up under silly premises is not a good thing. Instead we should glorify in the already good reviews and just use that as a way to get personally hyped for the game on Oct 13 instead of using it as a way to deduce anything falsely. Of course I know, don't bring the logic in here. Sorry but it's a habit haha.


Everything you said is correct. But something is different Imo since even Eurogamer absolutely loves it.

Haha that just means even despite biases they can see it as good.  But we all know that, logically, we can't deduce that about everyone or assume that everyone reviewing is simply doing it based on fanboy guilt or fanboy love.  Nor actually could we assume that about Eurogamer.  As I said it's best to take that just as yes the game is awesome considering even these guys think it is good. 

With this review out of the way it shouldn't drop more than 2 points. The only way I see it dropping below 96 is if reviewers just give it a bad score to get attention.

I point once again to Zelda: TP haha.  Remember we are dealing with the media here.  Of course I'm sure there are going to be some who don't like it as much but you can always tell when it's a real review or simply one looking for hits and controversy. 

Well I guess we will have to put this conversation off until the end of October.