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Akvod on 23 September 2009
selnor said:
lestatdark said:
@Selnor

Humm, i didn't knew that tribute trailers couldn't be made with the use of ingame shots and videos, so that tribute trailer of Forza is CGI as well then, in your own words?

I know that you always try to bring down GT, even when it isn't called for, but unless you can bring us a link that the video is CGI and not ingame, please try not to badmouth something that you don't like, because that's exactly what you ask for in your Forza threads.

Dude come on man. You can honestly say after seeing REAL footage of GT5, that this tribute is not GT5 game engine. Also whats this misconception that the Forza vid is a tribute. It isn't. It's the new footage for the DLC for Forza 3 coming in December. One is a tribute ( the Polyphony one ) and one is a DLC video ( The Turn 10 one ). Or did you think that Forza 3 was pushed back in release date? Now seriously. GT5 replay is below as well as Ferrari tribute made by Polyphony. Huge difference. It's like me calling the CGI video at E3 of Forza 3 representative of the game. LOL.

Example look at this:

 

While I'm not going to argue for or against, the first video isn't as clear as it could be, since you could see fuzziness and blur.



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darthdevidem01 on 23 September 2009
selnor said:
lestatdark said:
@Selnor

Humm, i didn't knew that tribute trailers couldn't be made with the use of ingame shots and videos, so that tribute trailer of Forza is CGI as well then, in your own words?

I know that you always try to bring down GT, even when it isn't called for, but unless you can bring us a link that the video is CGI and not ingame, please try not to badmouth something that you don't like, because that's exactly what you ask for in your Forza threads.

Dude come on man. You can honestly say after seeing REAL footage of GT5, that this tribute is not GT5 game engine. Also whats this misconception that the Forza vid is a tribute. It isn't. It's the new footage for the DLC for Forza 3 coming in December. One is a tribute ( the Polyphony one ) and one is a DLC video ( The Turn 10 one ). Or did you think that Forza 3 was pushed back in release date? Now seriously. GT5 replay is below as well as Ferrari tribute made by Polyphony. Huge difference. It's like me calling the CGI video at E3 of Forza 3 representative of the game. LOL.

Example look at this:

 

If it WASN'T THE GT5 Engine.......why the fudge does it say.....GRAN TURISMO 5 at 2:10 (skip to 2:10) in the bottom right hand corner?!

 

It could have just said Polyphony Digital their.....but it Says Gran Turismo 5.....next to the PD sign.....you know its there for a reason, it wasn't just playing hide n seek & decided come there!

I'm SICK of this selnor, everyone is!



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Akvod on 23 September 2009
darthdevidem01 said:
selnor said:
lestatdark said:
@Selnor

Humm, i didn't knew that tribute trailers couldn't be made with the use of ingame shots and videos, so that tribute trailer of Forza is CGI as well then, in your own words?

I know that you always try to bring down GT, even when it isn't called for, but unless you can bring us a link that the video is CGI and not ingame, please try not to badmouth something that you don't like, because that's exactly what you ask for in your Forza threads.

Dude come on man. You can honestly say after seeing REAL footage of GT5, that this tribute is not GT5 game engine. Also whats this misconception that the Forza vid is a tribute. It isn't. It's the new footage for the DLC for Forza 3 coming in December. One is a tribute ( the Polyphony one ) and one is a DLC video ( The Turn 10 one ). Or did you think that Forza 3 was pushed back in release date? Now seriously. GT5 replay is below as well as Ferrari tribute made by Polyphony. Huge difference. It's like me calling the CGI video at E3 of Forza 3 representative of the game. LOL.

Example look at this:

 

If it WASN'T THE GT5 Engine.......why the fudge does it say.....GRAN TURISMO 5 at 2:10 (skip to 2:10) in the bottom right hand corner?!

 

It could have just said Plyphony Digital their.....but its Say Gran Turismo 5.....next to the PD sign.....you know its there for a reason, it wasn't just playing hide n seek & decided come there!

I'm SICK of this selnor, everyone is!

Ahhhhhhhhh!!! *waves arms around*

I'm sick of it too!!!



darthdevidem01 on 23 September 2009
Akvod said:
darthdevidem01 said:
selnor said:
lestatdark said:
@Selnor

Humm, i didn't knew that tribute trailers couldn't be made with the use of ingame shots and videos, so that tribute trailer of Forza is CGI as well then, in your own words?

I know that you always try to bring down GT, even when it isn't called for, but unless you can bring us a link that the video is CGI and not ingame, please try not to badmouth something that you don't like, because that's exactly what you ask for in your Forza threads.

Dude come on man. You can honestly say after seeing REAL footage of GT5, that this tribute is not GT5 game engine. Also whats this misconception that the Forza vid is a tribute. It isn't. It's the new footage for the DLC for Forza 3 coming in December. One is a tribute ( the Polyphony one ) and one is a DLC video ( The Turn 10 one ). Or did you think that Forza 3 was pushed back in release date? Now seriously. GT5 replay is below as well as Ferrari tribute made by Polyphony. Huge difference. It's like me calling the CGI video at E3 of Forza 3 representative of the game. LOL.

Example look at this:

 

If it WASN'T THE GT5 Engine.......why the fudge does it say.....GRAN TURISMO 5 at 2:10 (skip to 2:10) in the bottom right hand corner?!

 

It could have just said Plyphony Digital their.....but its Say Gran Turismo 5.....next to the PD sign.....you know its there for a reason, it wasn't just playing hide n seek & decided come there!

I'm SICK of this selnor, everyone is!

Ahhhhhhhhh!!! *waves arms around*

I'm sick of it too!!!

{hugs akvod for agreeing with him}



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

lestatdark on 23 September 2009

@selnor

Actually those vids didn't do much justice to what you said. There are some parameters that you can compare between both the ingame vid and the Ferrari vid that are pratically the same, the global lightning, the hood reflections, the road textures, the car geometry and others more.

I never said that the Forza 3 vid is CGI, i believe that the quality of Forza 3 will be just like what the vid showed us, and hopefully the demo that's almost releasing will show us just that. But that doesn't take out the fact that GT is also showing some serious graphical horsepower as well.
Hopefully we will see more gameplay vids in TGS, and i sincerely believe that there will be graphical improvements over the Gamescon video, because they had a few more months to touch up the ingame engine. Also remember that while Forza 3 is almost at it's release deadline, so we know that what is being shown now it's the final build of the game, GT has a few more months to improve even more.

As much as I would like people just to accept that both games can co-exist, I know that it will never be possible. Both games have their strengths and their weaknesses, I for myself tend more to the GT side, but that doesn't mean that i will go and bad mouth Forza, because it will be a great game as well.

The same goes for the people that bad mouth Forza, even though some of them are doing it because of the arrogance which was shown by the developers towards the GT series, that's no excuse to badmouth a game that you haven't yet played



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selnor on 23 September 2009
Akvod said:
darthdevidem01 said:
selnor said:
lestatdark said:
@Selnor

Humm, i didn't knew that tribute trailers couldn't be made with the use of ingame shots and videos, so that tribute trailer of Forza is CGI as well then, in your own words?

I know that you always try to bring down GT, even when it isn't called for, but unless you can bring us a link that the video is CGI and not ingame, please try not to badmouth something that you don't like, because that's exactly what you ask for in your Forza threads.

Dude come on man. You can honestly say after seeing REAL footage of GT5, that this tribute is not GT5 game engine. Also whats this misconception that the Forza vid is a tribute. It isn't. It's the new footage for the DLC for Forza 3 coming in December. One is a tribute ( the Polyphony one ) and one is a DLC video ( The Turn 10 one ). Or did you think that Forza 3 was pushed back in release date? Now seriously. GT5 replay is below as well as Ferrari tribute made by Polyphony. Huge difference. It's like me calling the CGI video at E3 of Forza 3 representative of the game. LOL.

Example look at this:

 

If it WASN'T THE GT5 Engine.......why the fudge does it say.....GRAN TURISMO 5 at 2:10 (skip to 2:10) in the bottom right hand corner?!

 

It could have just said Plyphony Digital their.....but its Say Gran Turismo 5.....next to the PD sign.....you know its there for a reason, it wasn't just playing hide n seek & decided come there!

I'm SICK of this selnor, everyone is!

Ahhhhhhhhh!!! *waves arms around*

I'm sick of it too!!!

I never siad it wasnt based on the engine. But it ISN'T GT5. Are you saying the 2 videos I posted are the same????????????????????????????????????????????

I even posted replay mode to. Like I said before the Forza 3 video at E3 isn't representative of the game. You know the Video Editor one. Even though it's based on the engine their is no way I would go around claiming it was what Forza 3 was. Seriously, why is the people on this site the only ones who cant differentiate the 2?

They look completely different. View any of the comments on GameTrailers or Gamersyde etc. Even known Fanboys on those sites quite quickly said it wasn't hame representative.

The video is gorgeous, dont get me wrong. But I was gobsmacked to see people thinking this was GT5 representation here on VGChartz. Cmon man. Dont put things in peoples mouths.



Warblader on 23 September 2009

Why is this CGI?  Why does it say "Powered by Gran Turismo" at the start.  Why does it have obvious render bugs that would not be in a true CGI render at 1:25.... You see the mountains in the background get rendered (pop in) in as the view/car turns.



selnor on 23 September 2009
Warblader said:

Why is this CGI?  Why does it say "Powered by Gran Turismo" at the start.  Why does it have obvious render bugs that would not be in a true CGI render at 1:25.... You see the mountains in the background get rendered (pop in) in as the view/car turns.


It's not CGI. It's a massively enhanced game engine. Just like Turn 10 did at E3. Or did you think that was CGI to?



HanzoTheRazor on 23 September 2009

@selnor

Just give up mate, most are sick to death with your Forza 3 comparisons and GT5 bashing. It's getting beyond a joke!



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selnor on 23 September 2009
HanzoTheRazor said:
@selnor

Just give up mate, most are sick to death with your Forza 3 comparisons and GT5 bashing. It's getting beyond a joke!


What.

1. I havent compared Forza 3 and GT5 in this thread.

2. Ive compared GT5 to GT5.

3. I'm not bashing it here. I'm saying have you seen the ACTUAL GT5 footage and asking if you think it looks anything like the Ferrari made trailer. Noone is straight out saying yes, because they realise how silly it looks when posted side by side. Thats it. It's called educating. People here think it's representative of GT5, like they have forgotten there is actual footage of GT5 being played.

How about you read the posts before accusing.

If you notice the Forza 3 threads in M$ discussion forums have Sony boys bringing GT5 in all over. Even posting Screenshots of GT5 in Forza 3 threads. How about you tell that lot. The real nusances.