Now you're leaving the DS out of it? Wow. I thought that was part of your original post.

Dodece said: The hardware sales are out for all regions, and what a remarkable week it has been for hardware. Surprises abound, and every region has a story to tell uniquely its own. Sony beats the competition in the other regions. Microsoft lays a minor beating on Nintendo in North America. Nintendo has slid into mediocrity in Japan. Perhaps the most interesting fact is that perhaps Nintendomination has come to an end. Month after month Nintendo has easily dominated the competition in all the markets. Sometimes outselling their rivals by multiples. Sometimes two, three, or even four to one. However this week its not the case even though Nintendo still won. They did so by the smallest margin. The Xbox 360 is within fifteen thousand units of the champion. The PS3 is only sixty thousand units off the reigning champ. Obviously Microsoft is the likely contender at this moment, but the PS3 is starting to show some strength in Japan. So the whole owning that market just might be in doubt. What does everyone think is Nintendomination over, or are their two rivals hitting them with a well timed attack that only makes it appear so. Frankly I hope we see a good fist fight this holiday season between Microsoft and Nintendo. Not sure Sony can get into the tussle in a meaningful way when it comes to dominance. However Sony could be a spoiler for Nintendo especially in Japan. What do you guys think are this weeks charts sending us a message? Charts for quick reference in this supremely dugg site.   Japan America Others 76,826 111,861 158,975 347,662 70,133 75,365 62,027 207,525 19,660 88,843 75,033 183,536 3,413 123,098 42,244 168,755 13,646 31,394 77,827 122,86

Oh yeah, DS was part your original post. BTW, how did that fist fight end up?

This is cherry picking of the worst sort, selecting a range of dates in which the PS3 and 360 sold far higher than usual due to the holidays, and using that to imply that the system wasn't selling well. A cursory glance at the gaming market would show that it's much harder to dominate percentage-wise during the holiday period. Even within these dates, the Wii "only" controlled 46% of a three-system market, narrowly missing more than half of the market. Wow, what terrible results!

Still, I'll be happy to use your metric of comparison, use your definition of "domination". The Wii outsold 360 + PS3 combined on 34 different weeks this year; I haven't run the numbers on Wii versus 360 x2 or Wii versus PS3 x2, but I suspect they would look similarly. Expect the Wii to easily achieve all three of these benchmarks throughout Q1 and Q2 of 2008. Until you admit that the Wii, is, in fact, dominating the market, we can keep bumping this thread over and over again.

PS In case you didn't notice, the Wii outsold 360 + PS3 combined in hardware AND software last week.

Dodece is trying to pull the "I defined it so it's true in the confines of this thread". He's simply saying that he defined Nintendomination a certain way. In his eyes, he's right.

Of course, we don't take his definitions as gospel. 400% is Nintendomination, but I'd draw the line between non-domination and domination at outselling BOTH the competitors, and I'm sure most people here agree with me. As far as I'm aware, hasn't Nintendo done that?

Besides, the numbers all grow around the holidays, so Nintendo's absurd lead shrinks thus. Come January/February, you'll be eating a crow, alright. ;)

i see... you started off the thread by coming up with a definition that makes your position close to unassailable.  nothing wrong with that definition... but in forums that tends not to work well.

as to thread resurrection--of course people won't resurrect threads when data proves contrary to their point. you know better than to say something like that.

5 bucks when NA and others charts come out and Wii does like 200k between the 2 Dodece will come and say "Look I told you so"

he will ignore the fact that there are no Wii's to be purchased. Right now japan is only place getting shipments, and will be for 2-3 weeks. I called this a few weeks ago.

 No.

Nintendo did not fulfill your (stupid) requirement for "Nintendomination" - not the requirement.   Trying so blatantly to frame the debate in this matter only makes you look painfully biased and/or obtuse.

If John Lucas made a thread that said essentially "Hey guys, PS3 is a failure unless it is selling at least 0.4X of the entire market" nobody would take that at face value, because it's a subjective marker, just like the one that you are trying to put out there.  The PS3 could be deemed a success if it passes up the 360, even if it never really approaches the 0.4x market share salesl.  However, since the debate is framed in a certain way John Lucas could go on and on for pages claiming he is right even though it's obvious he's wrong.  Thankfully John Lucas doesn't do crap like this, because it's pretty pointless and artificial.  Subjective markers carry no actual weight.  Yet you continue to try and do essentially the same thing outlined in the example.  Great job man. 

APolitical, you're against Ron Paul, so your opinion doesn't matter.

 wtf does this matter? I'm all for Ron Paul and respect his overall opinion. 1-day ban for you to reflect on your personal issues. 

 QFT

I guess it depends on what you call Nintendomination.

Must move up Malstrom's Wii Bingo Board...