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superchunk on 21 September 2009
ManusJustus said:
NJ5 said:
I suspect that if Israel does put planes in the air, they will already have USA's green light, so this is a moot point IMO.

Israel didn't ask for our persmission when they attacked the USS Liberty and killed 34 Americans.

Yes they did. Read the detailed report from US Navy men on the ship and elsewhere. There was a carrier relatively close who initially put planes in the air to defend the Liberty and they were immediately called back and told to stand down while the Liberty was attacked repeatidly for a long duration after.



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outlawauron on 21 September 2009
superchunk said:
Screw Israel, oh, but some of you already know my attitude in regards to this. :)

If anyone does anything against Iran it must be US led. Israel needs to stfu and gtfo of WB/Gaza and Palestinian/rest of Middle Eastern affairs.

Obama's stance on Israel's illegal settlements is the first real balanced approach to Israeli aggression in decades from a US President.

Yeah, you're about as anti-Israel as I've ever heard.



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Rath on 21 September 2009
outlawauron said:
superchunk said:
Screw Israel, oh, but some of you already know my attitude in regards to this. :)

If anyone does anything against Iran it must be US led. Israel needs to stfu and gtfo of WB/Gaza and Palestinian/rest of Middle Eastern affairs.

Obama's stance on Israel's illegal settlements is the first real balanced approach to Israeli aggression in decades from a US President.

Yeah, you're about as anti-Israel as I've ever heard.

Ahmadinejad?



superchunk on 21 September 2009
Rath said:
outlawauron said:
superchunk said:
Screw Israel, oh, but some of you already know my attitude in regards to this. :)

If anyone does anything against Iran it must be US led. Israel needs to stfu and gtfo of WB/Gaza and Palestinian/rest of Middle Eastern affairs.

Obama's stance on Israel's illegal settlements is the first real balanced approach to Israeli aggression in decades from a US President.

Yeah, you're about as anti-Israel as I've ever heard.

Ahmadinejad?

lol, no not that bad. I don't deny factual events nor do I say Jews didn't deserve a homeland. I just increadibly dislike the actions that created Isreal as well as the US continued biased support of the illegal actions of Israel.



SciFiBoy on 21 September 2009

imo we should tell Israel to stop occupying Gaza & The West Bank, and get Hamas to stop bombing Israel and find a way to get both sides to take part in the peace process

also, if the world is serious about peace, then they need to stop taking sides in this conflict, for instance, arming one side or the other.



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outlawauron on 21 September 2009
superchunk said:
Rath said:
outlawauron said:
superchunk said:
Screw Israel, oh, but some of you already know my attitude in regards to this. :)

If anyone does anything against Iran it must be US led. Israel needs to stfu and gtfo of WB/Gaza and Palestinian/rest of Middle Eastern affairs.

Obama's stance on Israel's illegal settlements is the first real balanced approach to Israeli aggression in decades from a US President.

Yeah, you're about as anti-Israel as I've ever heard.

Ahmadinejad?

lol, no not that bad. I don't deny factual events nor do I say Jews didn't deserve a homeland. I just increadibly dislike the actions that created Isreal as well as the US continued biased support of the illegal actions of Israel.

Yeah, there we go.



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Kasz216 on 21 September 2009
ManusJustus said:
Kasz216 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:

Until you can show that Liberals make up the majority of that 7%, all you have is that 7% of Americans hate Israel, and that Liberals are more likely to prefer Palestine, but the two aren't interchangeable nor does one indicate the other, heck, a person could hate Israel and Palestine as well, it isn't a zero sum game as you seem to think.

No... it's not bias.  Once again... it's basic reasoning skills.

Lets not forget that there are a lot of Conservatives that hate Israel.  The Klu Klux Klan and a drunken Mel Gibson come to mind.

Yes.  1% of Republicans hate Israeal... and 7 times as many democrats hate Israel.

Don't you find that interesting?  It wasn't 7% of Americans hate Israel.  It was 7% of Democrats hate Israel.

Actually it's more then 7 times as many.  Since the democrats are a bigger party.

 

5.5 million Republicans hate Israel.  vs 50.4 Million Democrats.  So almost 10 times as many democrats hate Israel then Republicans.



Kasz216 on 21 September 2009
SciFiBoy said:
imo we should tell Israel to stop occupying Gaza & The West Bank, and get Hamas to stop bombing Israel and find a way to get both sides to take part in the peace process

also, if the world is serious about peace, then they need to stop taking sides in this conflict, for instance, arming one side or the other.

Oh is that all.

 

Welcome to.... America's like last 20 years of Israel foreign policy.



Rath on 21 September 2009
Kasz216 said:

Yes.  1% of Republicans hate Israeal... and 7 times as many democrats hate Israel.

Don't you find that interesting?  It wasn't 7% of Americans hate Israel.  It was 7% of Democrats hate Israel.

Actually it's more then 7 times as many.  Since the democrats are a bigger party.

 

5.5 million Republicans hate Israel.  vs 50.4 Million Democrats.  So almost 10 times as many democrats hate Israel then Republicans.

Wait where did you get 'hate' from?

I didn't see that word in the poll you showed us.



Kasz216 on 21 September 2009
Rath said:
Kasz216 said:
 

Yes.  1% of Republicans hate Israeal... and 7 times as many democrats hate Israel.

Don't you find that interesting?  It wasn't 7% of Americans hate Israel.  It was 7% of Democrats hate Israel.

Actually it's more then 7 times as many.  Since the democrats are a bigger party.

 

5.5 million Republicans hate Israel.  vs 50.4 Million Democrats.  So almost 10 times as many democrats hate Israel then Republicans.

Wait where did you get 'hate' from?

I didn't see that word in the poll you showed us.

To consider someone your enemy you would have to hate them.