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Yakuzaice on 18 September 2009
Crashdown77 said:
Yakuzaice said:

You can't look at a 10/10 as perfect.  Especially on scales that are only out of 5 or 10.  If a 10 is unachievable, then a 9 is essentially a perfect score.  So then nothing can be a 9, etc etc.  Just think about if scores were a thumbs up or down.  Should everything be thumbs down because nothing is perfect?


Honestly, I don't like review scores at all. I think reviews should just be text and people have to read them, it would be much more informative to us gamers. But what does 10/10 mean if not perfect? Giving a game a 10/10 sets a bad precedent. I will add a caveat, and you have a good point here. If the scale doesn't include tenths (e.g. 9.8 etc.), then the scale is broader and I would have to revise my opinion. But when a scale encompasses a 100 point scale (such as IGN's) then you can differentiate an amazing game (MGS was a 9.8) from a great game (a 9.4) from a well above average game (9.0) etc. So if you have only 1-2-3-4-5 to choose from, yes you could have a 5/5 score. I hope this makes sense, I tend to make a-z jumps in my head and not get the inbetween explained to anyone else.

I agree that scales out of 100 such as IGN shouldn't be passing out many 10.0's if any.  I'd say the problem exists within gaming reviews in general.  Instead of general indications of quality, we try to turn an opinion into an exact score for a game.  It would be one thing if all reviews were done by one person who could somehow be objective in every way, but that just isn't possible. 

Metacritic hasn't helped when they convert both letter and 5/5 scales into being out of 100.  Especially when most of the publications that score out of 100 tend to skew to the top end of the scale.  It gives very little room to work if you score out of 5.  For example I'd say a 3/5 should be a decent game that is worth your time if you like the genre.  Instead people see it as a 60% compare it to something like IGN and pronounce it to be crap.



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silicon on 18 September 2009
Yakuzaice said:
Crashdown77 said:
Yakuzaice said:

You can't look at a 10/10 as perfect.  Especially on scales that are only out of 5 or 10.  If a 10 is unachievable, then a 9 is essentially a perfect score.  So then nothing can be a 9, etc etc.  Just think about if scores were a thumbs up or down.  Should everything be thumbs down because nothing is perfect?


Honestly, I don't like review scores at all. I think reviews should just be text and people have to read them, it would be much more informative to us gamers. But what does 10/10 mean if not perfect? Giving a game a 10/10 sets a bad precedent. I will add a caveat, and you have a good point here. If the scale doesn't include tenths (e.g. 9.8 etc.), then the scale is broader and I would have to revise my opinion. But when a scale encompasses a 100 point scale (such as IGN's) then you can differentiate an amazing game (MGS was a 9.8) from a great game (a 9.4) from a well above average game (9.0) etc. So if you have only 1-2-3-4-5 to choose from, yes you could have a 5/5 score. I hope this makes sense, I tend to make a-z jumps in my head and not get the inbetween explained to anyone else.

I agree that scales out of 100 such as IGN shouldn't be passing out many 10.0's if any.  I'd say the problem exists within gaming reviews in general.  Instead of general indications of quality, we try to turn an opinion into an exact score for a game.  It would be one thing if all reviews were done by one person who could somehow be objective in every way, but that just isn't possible.

Everyone has different tastes. Reviewers can point out glaring problems with the game and some mechanics which is good to someone curious about playing the game. But whether a game is fun or good or bad depends on personal taste. All you can do is find a reveiwer that you generally agree with and stick with their scores...



Crashdown77 on 18 September 2009
silicon said:
Yakuzaice said:
Crashdown77 said:
Yakuzaice said:

You can't look at a 10/10 as perfect.  Especially on scales that are only out of 5 or 10.  If a 10 is unachievable, then a 9 is essentially a perfect score.  So then nothing can be a 9, etc etc.  Just think about if scores were a thumbs up or down.  Should everything be thumbs down because nothing is perfect?


Honestly, I don't like review scores at all. I think reviews should just be text and people have to read them, it would be much more informative to us gamers. But what does 10/10 mean if not perfect? Giving a game a 10/10 sets a bad precedent. I will add a caveat, and you have a good point here. If the scale doesn't include tenths (e.g. 9.8 etc.), then the scale is broader and I would have to revise my opinion. But when a scale encompasses a 100 point scale (such as IGN's) then you can differentiate an amazing game (MGS was a 9.8) from a great game (a 9.4) from a well above average game (9.0) etc. So if you have only 1-2-3-4-5 to choose from, yes you could have a 5/5 score. I hope this makes sense, I tend to make a-z jumps in my head and not get the inbetween explained to anyone else.

I agree that scales out of 100 such as IGN shouldn't be passing out many 10.0's if any.  I'd say the problem exists within gaming reviews in general.  Instead of general indications of quality, we try to turn an opinion into an exact score for a game.  It would be one thing if all reviews were done by one person who could somehow be objective in every way, but that just isn't possible.

Everyone has different tastes. Reviewers can point out glaring problems with the game and some mechanics which is good to someone curious about playing the game. But whether a game is fun or good or bad depends on personal taste. All you can do is find a reveiwer that you generally agree with and stick with their scores...

Honestly, flame me if you want, but this is IGN for me.



Yakuzaice on 18 September 2009
Crashdown77 said:
silicon said:
Yakuzaice said:
Crashdown77 said:
Yakuzaice said:

You can't look at a 10/10 as perfect.  Especially on scales that are only out of 5 or 10.  If a 10 is unachievable, then a 9 is essentially a perfect score.  So then nothing can be a 9, etc etc.  Just think about if scores were a thumbs up or down.  Should everything be thumbs down because nothing is perfect?


Honestly, I don't like review scores at all. I think reviews should just be text and people have to read them, it would be much more informative to us gamers. But what does 10/10 mean if not perfect? Giving a game a 10/10 sets a bad precedent. I will add a caveat, and you have a good point here. If the scale doesn't include tenths (e.g. 9.8 etc.), then the scale is broader and I would have to revise my opinion. But when a scale encompasses a 100 point scale (such as IGN's) then you can differentiate an amazing game (MGS was a 9.8) from a great game (a 9.4) from a well above average game (9.0) etc. So if you have only 1-2-3-4-5 to choose from, yes you could have a 5/5 score. I hope this makes sense, I tend to make a-z jumps in my head and not get the inbetween explained to anyone else.

I agree that scales out of 100 such as IGN shouldn't be passing out many 10.0's if any.  I'd say the problem exists within gaming reviews in general.  Instead of general indications of quality, we try to turn an opinion into an exact score for a game.  It would be one thing if all reviews were done by one person who could somehow be objective in every way, but that just isn't possible.

Everyone has different tastes. Reviewers can point out glaring problems with the game and some mechanics which is good to someone curious about playing the game. But whether a game is fun or good or bad depends on personal taste. All you can do is find a reveiwer that you generally agree with and stick with their scores...

Honestly, flame me if you want, but this is IGN for me.

My only issue with them is that they tend to be overly harsh on all aspects of games they dislike, and far too lenient on games they like.  But that just comes down to the presentation/graphics/sound/etc scores.



SpartanFX on 18 September 2009

I am so fuckin happy .Uncharted 2 babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy


but wait till edge gives it a 7.



 

 

 

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Staude on 18 September 2009
disolitude said:
Xoj said:
disolitude said:
kitler53 said:
disolitude said:
libellule said:
disolitude said:
Games not out for a month. how do sony games get these early reviews? Killzone 2 had reviews a month in advance.

Halo ODST is out in 5 ays and we are still waiting for a review...

 

- preview built can be sent to reviewer, it is not the finished game but it is close so some site use them to make their review

- there is an embargo on Halo ODST review

MS used their money (guess) to not allow people to release their review too early.
One would say it is because the game sucks, or it is not worth the money (too short) but I will not allow my self to say it (it is perhaps good after all ...)

also, u dont want review to break the insane amont of preorder in the USA alone ?

(I know, even if the review are bad, those guys will get the game anyway ...)

I work in online advertising and have worked for sites and online publishers before. There is no money changing hands for reviews... Publishers have to follow review embargo dates and this could be why the Halo review is not out.

However IGN is releasing it on Satuday...well before the game is out. So by Monday lots of reviews should be available.

Anywho, I just find it suspicios when game gets reviewed a month early. Kinda like ..."here, you can review this early if you hype it up and make it seem like its the best game ever"

are you suggesting that sony paid for the review?

generization without evidence i know but,... typically games that turn out great are released early so that great reviews can build up some hype.  games that turn out bad have a review embargo so bad reviews don't turn off day 1 buyers.  take that how you will.

I am not saying Uncharted 2 will trun out badly or anything. Im sure its going to be all that...and then some...11/10.

Im just a little surprised that all Sony high end exclusives as of late are getting perfect 10s a month before they come out. Like Killzone 2 had dozen perfect 10 legit reviews before the game actually came out. Some even claiming it makes Halo 3 , gears of war 2 look like highschool productions.

Now that the dust settled we can see that the game is great but it is not the second coming of jesus like everyone thought. A lot more people still preffer Halo 3 and Gears2 to Killzone2 even if they seem like "high school" productions.

As far as ODST, I don't expect it to be given a free pass. Just look at the negativity on this site for halo. Its the only HD game that sold 10 million without bundles on a signle console...yet people still say its crap. ODST will retain some of the same elements and it will get even more of a beating since people will bitch about graphics, lackof variety...etc.

Id be surprised if ODST stays at 9 on metacritic actually. None of that concerns me though.. I am playing WET right now and I like it way more than Batman AA. I know that if Halo ODST is made with similar mindset as other halos, I will absolutely love it.

because killzone 2, uncharted 2, and many games releasing now are HIGH budget productions. costing over 20-40 million.

they polish everything to make a good game.

If you think visual and production "polish" makes a good game...you need to reevaluate of why you are a gamer in the first place.

Not if that is what he likes in games.



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The_God_of_War on 18 September 2009

IGN video review for those interested-

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/14225971/uncharted-2/videos/uncharted2_vdr_091809.html;jsessionid=7q05h0hnmnnq3

It gets 9.5- awesome score but it breaks the perfect streak



  

SpartanFX on 18 September 2009

^^^uk ign or US????



 

 

 

Staude on 18 September 2009
The_God_of_War said:

IGN video review for those interested-

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/14225971/uncharted-2/videos/uncharted2_vdr_091809.html;jsessionid=7q05h0hnmnnq3

It gets 9.5- awesome score but it breaks the perfect streak

metacritic score is ruined ! noes.



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Torillian on 18 September 2009

so are these all EU sources so far? Is perhaps that the connection as to why these are so early?



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