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ironman on 16 September 2009
SciFiBoy said:
ironman said:
*Sigh* I was gonna post something worthwhile in here, but then I realized that intolerance is running rampant on this topic so far. Meh, not worth my time, it's not like I could change your minds anyway. Later!

funny, I don't see any posts here that could be labeled as "intollerant", perhaps you have a different definition of the word?




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Reasonable on 16 September 2009
Final-Fan said:
Reasonable said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
They actually taught me evolution at my private Catholic high school. They also taught me that if a baby got hit by a car before it was baptized, it would go to Purgatory instead of Heaven. Very mixed messages.

I always felt the unbaptised kids got it rough - your parents are a bit lazy, you're a model child and get straight A's at school, help old ladies cross roads, etc....  you get horribly killed, and God's response... Purgatory for you kid!  For eternity!  Or did they get a second chance?  My memory is hazy on that point?

I'd had the impression that people who got sent to Purgatory were only there for a while, until they "paid off" whatever sins landed them there.  I.e., it's not eternal like Hell -- you'd eventually get into Heaven.  God's jail, if you will. 

But then, that's only the impression I got.  I may well be mistaken. 

I guess in that case it's more like Celestial detention.



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Final-Fan on 16 September 2009

lol, exactly -- much better!



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Kasz216 on 16 September 2009
Final-Fan said:
Reasonable said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
They actually taught me evolution at my private Catholic high school. They also taught me that if a baby got hit by a car before it was baptized, it would go to Purgatory instead of Heaven. Very mixed messages.

I always felt the unbaptised kids got it rough - your parents are a bit lazy, you're a model child and get straight A's at school, help old ladies cross roads, etc....  you get horribly killed, and God's response... Purgatory for you kid!  For eternity!  Or did they get a second chance?  My memory is hazy on that point?

I'd had the impression that people who got sent to Purgatory were only there for a while, until they "paid off" whatever sins landed them there.  I.e., it's not eternal like Hell -- you'd eventually get into Heaven.  [edit:  Godly detention], if you will. 

But then, that's only the impression I got.  I may well be mistaken. 

[edit:  I like Reasonable's analogy better than my original one.]

I always thought that it was you were in purgatory until enough people prayed for you... and that's how it was "payed off".

 



Craan on 16 September 2009

isn't 8% a little high for Jehovas witnesses?



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FaRmLaNd on 16 September 2009

I'm very glad that if I lived in America I'd be one of those minority that think evolution is cool.



Final-Fan on 16 September 2009
Kasz216 said:
Final-Fan said:
Reasonable said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
They actually taught me evolution at my private Catholic high school. They also taught me that if a baby got hit by a car before it was baptized, it would go to Purgatory instead of Heaven. Very mixed messages.

I always felt the unbaptised kids got it rough - your parents are a bit lazy, you're a model child and get straight A's at school, help old ladies cross roads, etc....  you get horribly killed, and God's response... Purgatory for you kid!  For eternity!  Or did they get a second chance?  My memory is hazy on that point?

I'd had the impression that people who got sent to Purgatory were only there for a while, until they "paid off" whatever sins landed them there.  I.e., it's not eternal like Hell -- you'd eventually get into Heaven.  [edit:  Godly detention], if you will. 

But then, that's only the impression I got.  I may well be mistaken. 

[edit:  I like Reasonable's analogy better than my original one.]

I always thought that it was you were in purgatory until enough people prayed for you... and that's how it was "payed off".

Judging by Wikipedia's entry (yes, yes), I'd say it looks like prayer reduces the sentence, but is more of a supplement to the main way of "working it off" through suffering in Purgatory. 



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Raiden706 on 16 September 2009

They should teach SOME evolution in school...like natural selection but nothing that will interfere to much with religion...people can't say it's ok to teach evolution when (public) school can't teach about religion.
I believe in Evolution to a point...I mean monkeys and humans are just word that we define and categorize ourselves, so human thousand of years ago could be similar to what we now categorize as monkeys...kinda weird way of explaining it I can't really find the right words.



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FaRmLaNd on 16 September 2009

I see no reason to not teach religion in schools. However it should be taught in a religious education class, not the science class room.

EDIT I would have loved to have been taught philosophy and political theory at school. Alas I had wait until university for such an education (beyond me teaching myself obviously).



Kasz216 on 17 September 2009
Final-Fan said:
Kasz216 said:
Final-Fan said:
Reasonable said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
They actually taught me evolution at my private Catholic high school. They also taught me that if a baby got hit by a car before it was baptized, it would go to Purgatory instead of Heaven. Very mixed messages.

I always felt the unbaptised kids got it rough - your parents are a bit lazy, you're a model child and get straight A's at school, help old ladies cross roads, etc....  you get horribly killed, and God's response... Purgatory for you kid!  For eternity!  Or did they get a second chance?  My memory is hazy on that point?

I'd had the impression that people who got sent to Purgatory were only there for a while, until they "paid off" whatever sins landed them there.  I.e., it's not eternal like Hell -- you'd eventually get into Heaven.  [edit:  Godly detention], if you will. 

But then, that's only the impression I got.  I may well be mistaken. 

[edit:  I like Reasonable's analogy better than my original one.]

I always thought that it was you were in purgatory until enough people prayed for you... and that's how it was "payed off".

Judging by Wikipedia's entry (yes, yes), I'd say it looks like prayer reduces the sentence, but is more of a supplement to the main way of "working it off" through suffering in Purgatory. 

Well I guess i should stay friends with those catholic people i know just in case.

They can be such downers though... never getting peporoni pizza on fridays etc.