OK, so Forza 2 wasn't bundled at the start, that helps with predicting first week sales a bit.

America - 450k

Others - 250k

Japan - 20k

Lifetime

All depends on bundling. 2.5 million without and anything up to 5 mill with bundling.

I also expect a 92 on Metacritic.

+1 Million first week

+5M LTD

people will soon understand MS is not joking about FM3

670k - 730k First Week WW
3.1m - 3.7m lifetime w/o bundles...

So a bigger launch week than COD4 on 360 then?

You are confident.

not including bundles i think this will be underwhelming.

i just have that feeling. kind of how i had that feeling on killzone

just NO ONE i know is talking about this game. NO ONE.

(by no one, i mean in the real world, not online)

300k first week in America, 200k in Europe = 500k first week ww.

Lifetime sales 4.25 million.

650k ww first week.

It will peek in the first week with 300.000 and it will quickly crumble after that. 2 million lifetime at the most, not counting bundles. 2 million is still an impressive number though.

Europeans hardly care with GT around the corner and NA is stacking up on PS3 at the moment as hardware sales clearly show, many of them are currently buying platinum games on PS3. Japan sales are insignificant.

What does COD4 matter, even Fable II beat COD4's 1st week sales.

Although I doubt Forza 3 could do a million in one week ...

@seece

cod 4 always matters my man