Ever heard about something called a New Game+? This argument is pretty much invalid.

I think it's reasonable for some people to want to see everything in a game on one playthrough.  I mean, when it comes to games that take 30+ hours to complete, there has to be a very large incentive to complete it a second time and a few minor bonuses and dialogs really doesn't cut it.

I love the New Game+ concept and I'm glad it's being implemented in more games, but very few of those games are providing strong incentives to use it.

Persona 4 BY JUST A LITTLE. Honestly P4 is awesome, FFVII is awesome but not as awesome as P4.

I would pick Persona 4

Final Fantasy 7 is one of the few main Final Fantasy games I would not pick over Persona 4. I would definitely pick FF 4,6,9,10 all over Persona 4.

Are you seriously telling me, in different wording, that Zen didn't miss a single thing the first time he played FFVII? Why didn't he complain about this? If he didn't know about this feature in Persona 4 in the first place, it's his fault and proves that he didn't really play the game to its fullest. If he did, he wouldn't have said that you can miss un-important stuff in the first place.

Since I'm a completionist, I'm always glad to know that there are ways to experience everything the game has to offer. Persona games have good uses of the New Game+ concept (add more Fusions, opens a lot of other dialogues, new dungeon/boss fights, etc.). The only thing you can miss in the first playthrough are optional dialogues from different Social Link possibilities, which you can experience on a New Game+ anyways, or optional equipment, which is really nothing to whine about here.

With all that said, I only wished Final Fantasy games would have the feature too, especially for titles in the series such as FFIX and FFXII.

They were fast paced.  Also, they actually required strategy.

I didn't say anything about Zen's experience. 

As for the additional stuff in Persona 4, it's one enemy, a few weapons, and one fusion.  Sorry but that doesn't cut it at all.

Funny, I found stupidly them simple.  Use element XYZ is weak to, get another turn, use element that XYZ is weak to, get another turn, use element that XYZ is weak to, get another turn, use the dogpile/bum rush attack, watch EXP screen.  In regular battles, the main character spent pretty much the whole game winning battles singlehandedly.  Boss battles were the opposite.  They were long and tedious.  It was mostly watching the characters do the same attacks over and over for 20 minutes until the boss ran out of HP.

What I really meant with the first paragraph is that he praised the game, but most of the things he said about Persona 4 could have been said about FFVII as well.

As for the second paragraph, well, sucks for you I guess. It was more than enough for me at least. I mean, just getting to the final boss with my new ultimate fusion/max Social Links/best equipment was awesome. It was a great sense of accomplishment.

(And why complain about an extra anyways?)

Let me quote myself:

I don't know about most of the people here but I don't have all day, every day to play video games.  I have limited time each day/week to play.  I love playing RPGs but they're long so they eat up a lot of time.  On the first playthrough, it's all new and interesting so it's fine.  However on other playthroughs, if I've seen/done 99% of what there is to see/do in the game then I'm essentially wasting my time to a certain extent. 

Games with multiple endings or large branching plots or various large-scale changes based on player input make worthy replays.  KotOR, Jade Empire, Baldur's Gate 2, and many others have a lot of things which change based on player decisions and make each replay a fresh experience.  This is a sharp contrast to the Persona 4 replayability which just means carrying over a few things and an additional enemy/fusion/weapons.