KBG - You're wrong about Batman. He hates the Joker and is consumed by that hate... He wants his revenge on Joker but he knows that death isn't the right way... but he still needs to fight his demons so the hatred doesnt take over... I dont think he'd be sad if joker died. If you made it a more general statement like Batman would be sad if the bad guys he were facing died then I'd agree. Batman doesn't use firearms for this very reason. He wants a little casualties as possible.

all i care is for nate to be more of a badass and stop falling in love with the chicks in the game a least play more of a hard to get game wit the gals going

by the trophy list it looks good to me was worried they would be online heavy

If Firmwre 3.1 makes it freeze

all reasons suck, the first game was great, maybe it could be longer, cant they all, story was great, uncharted 2 is suposed to be 12 hours, have a different co op, and then multiplayer, the beta was good, its not all, that is why its a beta, relax the game will be great, it will be a classic

Online is fantastic and addicting. Single player add more gameplay (Stealth, Puzzles 60%, Gunplay 40%) and minutes CS. All that equals more replay value.

Yeah if Street Fighter IV, MGS4, Bioshock, Bad Company, Infamous and Killzone 2 to name a few suddenly disappeared you would probably be right.

OT: I just hope they have good maps for the multiplayer because the ones in the beta sucked, Co-op was great though.

For me Uncharted II's value is roughly $30.

Because the MP has no value for me, I can't play multiplayer on console shooters (aiming is too hard).

And since the adventure itself, i would guess, is rufly 8-10 hours without replay value (not that it has to), then it's not worth $60. If the game was new though, and I saw it for $45, i would probably buy it from impulse.

Does that make sense?

Uncharted's quality is worth 100 dollars.... to bad they dont allow people to pay more than the MRSP if theyd like.

Ok, put me up for another $10 or $20. I take back the $30 amount. I say $50.

I forgot to account for the fact that a high quality game - such as a +90% game which Uncharted II weill be - is higher value than the average $60 game.