Of course that can work against you as well. For example with IL-2:BOP the Anton just posted that for the PS3 users in the next update they will be able to use a PC flightstick, mouse, and adjust the deadzone but not for the X-box 360. This is because Microsoft wants complete control over everything while Sony will allow  using PC hardware and adjusting the hardware deadzone for the flightstick.

That is the worst argument I've ever heard. That's like "let's stop making guns because some people murder others with it" - it's not the guns fault. Just like the gun, PC gaming shouldn't take any blame for what people do with it. There are alot of honest PC gamers out there (I bought almost 50 PC games in the last 12 months)

^ So, why were you so keen on defending murder -- I mean piracy -- earlier in this thread? Or was it just that you were attacking used/rental games?

P.S. FIFTY?

Me embarassed by someone who argues that keyboards and mice give significant advantage to players? Yeah....

I knew they existed, the pointn is they don't do shit to improve your playing. As is shown by the best not using one of them. In fact I was hoping you'd throw the G15 which would have been your absolute best bet over the crap you showed me, bt you didn't even manage to do that. You apparently can't wrap your head around the fact that even the pro players don't use the keyboards you just linked. Same with the mice. I've seen many people annihilate with optical mice from 2001.

Maybe so when you launch single-player Crysis or the next Half-Life or whatever, you can enjoy graphics which blows consoles out of the water. Or if you really give a damn that much about graphics in multiplayer, you have the option for that too. Competatively, graphics are better when turned down, especially all the fancy effects that exist nowadays. I'm not grasping at straws considering all your arguments are illogical and flawed.

^ I assume there's proof Fatal1ty actually uses his marketed product? 'Cause I heard he's a marketing whore...

I have this pad for my PC

http://www.cybersnipa.com/us/gaming-keyboards/gamepad.php

but I often simply use mouse and keyboard.

For driving games I bought first a Thrustmaster Universal Challenge wheel: DON'T EVER BUY IT! IT'S UTTER SHIT! The gear down lever broke twice, it's too fragile for fast changing down, unless you are an utterly calm person and able to perfectly husband your force even in frantic moments. The first time I could fix it with superglue, but shortly after it broke in a different place, thinner, so the fix won't last. And it's very difficult to have breakings covered by warranty. There are enough buttons on it to replace the function, but it's uncomfortable for difficult games and racetracks.

Now I've got a Trust GM-3500R with Force Feedback, I still have to try it, but it looks a lot more robust, its only visible drawback is the less practical position of the HAT switch, but I don't use it often in racing games.

For flying sims I first got a MS Sidewinder Precision Pro, it had a feature, doubling function for its base buttons, that I still miss, but it broke a week after its warranty expired. Now I've had a Logitech Wingman Extreme Digital 3D for many years, it still works fine.

This is the only video I could find of someone actually showing him while playing:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4521265707992764655#docid=3117823994200388692

Around 1 minute (give or take 10 secs) they will show his keyboard. That very same one I linked.

Edit: Around 50 seconds not 1 min.

Ha, text would have been fine too! But thanks.

I'm sorry to inform you that they are.

What works for some does not work for others. You fail yet again! Many people actually find that better keyboards and mice give them an advantage. Just because somebody CAN win with a regular mouse does NOT mean that it gives them a better tacticle advantage. Iask you, when was the last time you played Fatality or any of the pros online? What they do is completely irrelevant to my point, that being that a better mouse and keyboard generally gives a person a pretty significant advantage.

Once again, on the graphics front, what may work for you, does not work for everybody else. Many peiople find that better graphics = a better experiance. But once again, thank you for solidifying the point that consoles have PCs on the graphics front. Toned down graphics = better skills to you, so the console players have better skills. Also, the console players don't have to upgrade to get the best gameplay experiance. Everybody gets the same experiance, and it's all plug and play, unlike PCs.

@Smidlee, Fight sticks do give players an advantage,but that is just entering the console market, I blame PCs for that shit. Anyway, Keyboards and Mice are actually a detriment to console gaming so your point there...is naturally moot.