Rath said: I wish you would actually explain your points.
Your last post was 'you don't understand free will' without explaining what is wrong with my view of free will, then 'quantum mind is completely disproven' without posting any evidence that this is the case.
There is no way I can write a proper response to that as it didn't make any points other than 'you are wrong'. |
There really isn't much to explain. Quantum Theory Free Will doesn't bear out to expiermentation.
People very rarely randomly make choices and do things on "whims".
If people's thoughts are rolling dice... they are most certaintly loaded dice and work nothing like subatomic particles.
When people make desicisons they always favor things. Even when they make "coinflip" descisions... there is always something that makes the chances of picking one answer more then 50% for the person then the other.
People can't actually randomly choose things.
This is just from the social end.
From the Physical end you come up with the problem that the brain is simply too big... the insular cortex and all.
and in general the math doesn't play out even if consiousness was quantum level.
Example.
http://www.sustainedaction.org/Explorations/problem_with_quantum_mind_theory.htm\
"Combining data about the brain's temperature, the sizes of various proposed quantum objects, and disturbances caused by such things as nearby ions, Tegmark calculated how long microtubules and other possible quantum computers within the brain might remain in superposition before they decohere. His answer: The superpositions disappear in 10**-13 to 10**-20 seconds. Because the fastest neurons tend to operate on a time scale of 10**-3 seconds or so, Tegmark concludes that whatever the brain's quantum nature is, it decoheres far too rapidly for the neurons to take advantage of it."
"If our neurons have anything at all to do with our thinking, if all these electrical firings correspond in any way to our thought patterns, we are not quantum computers," says Tegmark. The problem is that the matter inside our skulls is warm and ever-changing on an atomic scale, an environment that dooms any nascent quantum computation before it can affect our thought patterns. For quantum effects to become important, the brain would have to be a tiny fraction of a degree above absolute zero.
Physicists outside the fray, such as IBM's John Smolin, say the calculations confirm what they had suspected all along. "We're not working with a brain that's near absolute zero. It's reasonably unlikely that the brain evolved quantum behavior," he says. Smolin adds: "I'm conscientiously staying away" from the debate.