@ brawl4life: Ok then... Sorry I flew off the handle like that...

I guess sucking up to mods can really get you somewhere...

I told squaids how I felt on the subject, and he/she couldn't handle it. Don't get mad because someone disagrees with you. That's just immature.

I'm done with this conversation. Some people just can't take being wrong.

Was with you until right here...... Overall the Saints are a better team IMO. Manning is a genius QB but the Saints great at disguising coverage and pressuring the QB and I think these aspescts will be the deciding factors in this game.

Livid retorts?  I think you are being just a tad self-important to think I care enough about this discussion to be livid. Certainly I would admit to being slightly annoyed at how you keep trying to make the discussion about anything but football...as you're doing now by trying to push the conversation towards some imagined anger. Let me give you some friendly advice on this and just tell you, as a friend, that this "r u mad?" stuff is the stuff of trolls and you...well lets just so you're not that person, right?

Now on the actual topic of football, your reply really has nothing new. You repeated the same argument about Manning pretty much verbatim with no attempt to change it and no reasoning as to why I might be wrong beyond that you simply declared that I am wrong. Which is no argument at all obviously.

I won't repeat my rebuttal to it, you can reply to my last post again if you'd like, only this time please make some sort of attempt at a subtantive rebuttal and/or provide some specific predictions.  And if you don't have any substantive points you want to raise then don't respond at all.

Now the prediction I will address because I'm not sure you understand what I'm saying entirely:

As it stands I really cant give you any credit for your current prediction as it is so nebulous that you could claim victory 50% of the time (When IND wins)...no matter how Manning were to gain advantage in the game you will simply claim you were right. This is sort of like your "NO will rape MIN" prediction where an overtime field goal apparently qualified in your view...in short you were going to claim a successful prediction regardless of the outcome so long as NO won. The bottom line is if you know as much as your projected confidence indicates about Manning and how this game will play out you can easily name at least one aspect that we can look at after the game to judge the prediction objectively.

The issue is that even if the Colts win and Manning has the best day of his life and Brees has the worst day of his life your prediction still won't be shown correct.  This is a pretty basic concept of game theory actually whereby a player in a game can make a terrible decision and have the result turn out to be a positive one and yet their choice is still considered a bad one (you can find this concept all throughout the field of game-theory).  A good example is poker where a player holding no made hand could call his entire stack of chips against a player who has just re-raised him for the 2nd time this hand.  The re-raises indicate strength by the opponent and by calling he has no chance of bluffing him out of the hand and commits all of his money with literally nothing...but if the final card dealt gives him the straight flush and the pot his choice to call the bet is still not correct - it is lucky.  The call is only correct if you can defend it with sound reasoning as to why it is the correct choice to make out of the options available.

Similarly just saying you think Manning has an edge won't be proven by a Colts win.  Which is why some sort of specific thing we can look for during the game that Manning will do that Brees can't do is needed to seperate a correct prediction from simply getting lucky.  It will show that you're not just throwing trash out there and claiming victory for any scenario that even remotely fits.  If you're not up to that then no problem, I won't hold it against you, but then also don't expect adulation either.

Considering your avoidance of the issue thus far I'll take the absense of any such specifics to be your answer.

PS - Enjoy the game =)

Looks like you didn't use my advice. "/

I told you why you were wrong. I even exemplified it. You just don't accept it by claiming I didn't answer your question, or avoided your response to mask that fact. You should go back and re-read my post if you couldn't get it the first time.

If you're going to get angry over something as trivial as being proven wrong over a simple debate about football (online, mind you lol ), then I'm afraid I can't talk to you right now. I'll give you a few days to calm down. Like I said, you can't win every argument, bro. Take it with a grain of salt.

Go Saints! =]

This isn't even going to be close when the second half comes around. Colts about to run off with this shit. They are already dominating in my book. The score just doesn't reflect that, lol.

Now currently 31-17 Saints at the 2 minute mark.  Talk about wishing you hadn't said that eh. 

That was false optimism. Like saying it's not going to snow when it really is going to

I didn't want to jinx the saints domination.

@Bolded,

Wow, now that is kinda ironic isn't it?

Seriously though, I don't know why you were being so absolute about your prediction.  Football is a chaotic game and there really was no reason to think anyone could know beyond a doubt what was going to happen between two obviously great teams with QBs playing at phenomenal levels. 

In truth I don't hold the failed prediction against you because I think my assessment was correct...you got caught up in the hype...it happens to every true fan at some point though so its not a big deal.  You reload and come back next season, it's all good.

Alright now I can say the Vikings lost to the Superbowl champions......small victories........