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Gnizmo said:

The only thing we may need to start doing is rounding up to 4 mafia with all the power roles we are giving the townies.

Last game had the Aronist (non-town), Fire Fighter (no ability), and Lie Detector (didn't even make a difference).

This game had the Poisoner (non-town), Body Snatcher (didn't make a difference), and Reporter.  The Reporter is unique because it has the ability to prematurely expose the Doctor and the Cop so in worst case scenario, it could end up severely hurting the townsfolk.

This past game had decent balance.  You had the Poisoner and Reporter countering each other as well as an equal number of pro-town specials vs mafia (Doctor/Cop/Reporter vs 3 Mafia).



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I see. Thanks for the info.

@ Soriku: where??



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Why don't you guys want to balance out the days? A day too short is good for the mafia, a day too long is good for the town. Even if you don't believe a roleclaimer, another can counter claim narrowing down people's decisions. So yes, you maybe won't believe em but have something to work with unlike the mafia .

I'm done arguing and honestly I'm a little paranoid now. I'm starting to believe this is a big conspiracy where the rules on the length of day are so loose that the mod can manipulate the game and swing it to either direction he wants when he wants. While the so called "Experienced" players can throw the rule book at you whenever you question it



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Words Of Wisdom said:
Gnizmo said:

The only thing we may need to start doing is rounding up to 4 mafia with all the power roles we are giving the townies.

Last game had the Aronist (non-town), Fire Fighter (no ability), and Lie Detector (didn't even make a difference).

This game had the Poisoner (non-town), Body Snatcher (didn't make a difference), and Reporter.  The Reporter is unique because it has the ability to prematurely expose the Doctor and the Cop so in worst case scenario, it could end up severely hurting the townsfolk.

This past game had decent balance.  You had the Poisoner and Reporter countering each other as well as an equal number of pro-town specials vs mafia (Doctor/Cop/Reporter vs 3 Mafia).

Last game had 2 cops and a lie detector. The mafia lost due to bad luck, but they were in a bad way with those 3 running around. This game I can maybe see your point more, but the two investigates was brutal for them. It is a cake walk to sniff them out after a few rounds.

Who is hosting round 5? Not me.



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Gnizmo said:

Last game had 2 cops and a lie detector. The mafia lost due to bad luck, but they were in a bad way with those 3 running around. This game I can maybe see your point more, but the two investigates was brutal for them. It is a cake walk to sniff them out after a few rounds.

Who is hosting round 5? Not me.

Oh right, I forgot we had two cops because we killed one off on the very first night.

This game was better balanced in that regard.



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hatmoza said:
Why don't you guys want to balance out the days? A day too short is good for the mafia, a day too long is good for the town. Even if you don't believe a roleclaimer, another can counter claim narrowing down people's decisions. So yes, you maybe won't believe em but have something to work with unlike the mafia .

I'm done arguing and honestly I'm a little paranoid now. I'm starting to believe this is a big conspiracy where the rules on the length of day are so loose that the mod can manipulate the game and swing it to either direction he wants when he wants. While the so called "Experienced" players can throw the rule book at you whenever you question it

We don't want to balance out the days because we know it is a non-issue. The length doesn't really help or hurt either side if it is well played. What screwed you people was poor decision making.



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Ironic coming from someone I fooled into poisoning WoW
I'm done here.

Mafia is fixed --Confirmed :P



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Gnizmo said:
WoW beat me to it. Few people have bothered to actually read the rules, and those are the only ones ever surprised by what is going on. I am relatively certain it even covers whether or not the doctor can heal himself.

I realize that. And I have read the rules on there, I just forgot that since as I stated, I have always played games in real life where the doctor has been allowed to heal himself (though sometimes that's for non-consecutive nights).

@ Hatmoza; honestly, the mafia didn't get a great deal this game because I know that you guys aren't as experienced as some of the other players. I'm not a great player myself, but I have a few more games under my belt than some of you guys. I'd say that the mafia losing was part you posting drunk (and saying you were mafia ), part DGC defending Falcon, and part luck in lynching Falcon. You guys didn't do terribly, but I think it would have been better if we had another experienced player as mafia. Being town is a lot easier when you're starting off, I think.



Oh man, insomniac17 reminded me of the first time i was a werewolf (mafia) -- I got accused on at least 3 days, every time I lived by a sliver. The last time my defense was, "if I was a werewolf I'd be dead by now".

That was awesome.



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Haha, I actually learned how to play the werewolf version of the game at an engineering camp (at the college I go to now). I learned the mafia version on my trip to europe. It helped pass the time on the coach/bus.

I think the first time I played I was the howler (werewolf who can "silence" people so they can't talk during the next day), but I got killed off pretty fast... Random lynching.