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@Onna76:

I see; again, mileage may vary by type of television involved.



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@Onna76:

I think the image improvement you're seeing has a lot less to do with which standard is being used (480i vs 576i) and a lot more to do with the fact that composite cables provide a vastly inferior signal to component cables.  Honestly, even on an SDTV, and using a SNES as the source, I can easily see the difference between composite and S-Video.  Composite is fuzzy with bleeding colors, S-Video is crisp.  Same thing you're seeing.



What? SNES supports S-Video?



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Ey...S video? Explain, show... I have a Super Famicom and 2 N64 versions, Japanese and European, yep I'm crazy I know, but honestly those games look hoooooooooribble on my LCD TV with composite, but I really, really, really love to play those games on my LCD TV, since several are not available on the VC yet.

@Entroper, really? Isn't it strange then that I see a major difference with Pal games, but none with NTSC games when I use a component cable instead of composite, without progressive scan?

Edit: But as GooseGaws say, probably has to do with my type of TV then, Sony always like to do things complicated *lol*. Too bad it doesn't show a major difference with my JP NTSC games, or else the solution would be simple... a Slim PS2 now... a PS3 later.



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@Onna76:

I see that there is a S-Video cable available from Nintendo's online store that should function for both the N64 and the SNES. It states that it is not compatible with the re-designed SNES, however. I'm not sure this would really make a huge difference for you though, as you failed to notice much of a difference between composite and component for NTSC content on your TV (other than progressive output)...



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Ah I guess that will only do good for my Pal N64 then? And I have a re-designed Super Famicom, the smaller version, so no good then *sob*.

Edit: what's better a RGB cable or S Video? 



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I'm not very familiar with the PAL standard, but I believe an RGB cable is basically the same thing as a component cable, which would make it superior to S-Video.



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RGB is better than S-Video. It goes:

Components > RGB cable > S-Video > Composite

But I think the difference between Components and RGB is either very small or non-noticeable.



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Great thanks guys! Then I will look out for a RGB cable for at least my Pal N64. If you don't try it you never find out ;). Who knows, perhaps a tiny maybe it will do some good for my SF as well, but I better not keep my hopes up high :(.



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Well, since there was already a thread about this, I didn't feel like opening a new one.

Since yesterday I was finally able to put on my PS3. Well, maybe sooner, but without the converter I rather not took the risk. After a very rough start because of a freezing console, 3 times, thanks to the online registration option and surviving a headache because of getting used to the smaller menu letters all of the sudden... comparing to a WII, I took the time this morning to test 2 PS2 games. KH2 and FFX-2. BC was a major reason to buy the PS3 in the first place.

I've checked FFX-2 very quickly yesterday and looked alright with me, though tested it on 720p.

Upscaling is indeed for my Sony Bravia LCD TV, a must, but.. not too much I've noticed, when it comes to PS2 games. I've noticed 480p is just enough. The more you upscale a PS2 game, the blurrier it gets. To show the differences I've included 4 pictures, 2 taken in 480p scan with smoothing and 2 taken in 720p with smoothing. Smoothing is in my case needed. Well... quite a difference, isn't it? 480p is so much better. I noticed this already with KH2, the background was very blurry and the characters (Japanese letters) as well in 720p and it got worse when I put it in 1080i. Mind you though, I have only a component cable. Which reminds me... does the images even get better with a HDMI cable?

Really, playing FFX-2 is like playing it again on my older TV, in a good sense. Hardly any jaggies, just about the same images as you would expect on a normal TV. Playing KH2 is looking at a Roxas in one piece instead of an amount of pixels floating on my screen. For that, credits to Sony for making the upscale upgrades work so fine, at least in Japan.

I haven't tested all the games yet and need to test PS games as well, but with the results of KH2 and FFX-2 I can really say... BC rules and should continue to stay alive on the PS3! Especially for LCD owners like me, and there are many of them.

FFX-2 NTSC/JP 480P - SMOOTHING

720P - SMOOTHING

480P - SMOOTHING

720P - SMOOTHING



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