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The EU is ridiculously protectionist and anti-free trade.

They make the US look completely fair in comparison.

If the US did half the shit the EU does tons of nations would bitch. 

Whether the WTO could actually do anything to them is unlikely though.

 

The EU's protectionism is so silly that CHINA has filed against them in the WTO court.



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Good find.

Everyone and an idiot knows that the EU subsidized Airbus - directly or indirectly.

Hypocrisy.



So, what actions come out of the WTO ruling?

I think Canada are also planning on taking the EU to the WTO after its ban on the import of seal products.



SamuelRSmith said:
So, what actions come out of the WTO ruling?

I think Canada are also planning on taking the EU to the WTO after its ban on the import of seal products.

I'd guess a storngly worded opinion.



Kasz216 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
So, what actions come out of the WTO ruling?

I think Canada are also planning on taking the EU to the WTO after its ban on the import of seal products.

I'd guess a storngly worded opinion.

This and both the US and the EU will agree to cut some of their support for both companies. And they will somehow agree, to fight any other company (from China at one day) to get into the market. That's how politics work.



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Yeah, and it'd be totally kosher if they dumped billions upon billions worth of military contracts like the US does, huh?

Both entities subisidize their respective industrial bases.





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Bitmap Frogs said:
Yeah, and it'd be totally kosher if they dumped billions upon billions worth of military contracts like the US does, huh?

Both entities subisidize their respective industrial bases.

Your joking right?  Who else is supposed to do Military work.


The EU takes protectionism to a whole different level then the US.



Kasz216 said:
Bitmap Frogs said:
Yeah, and it'd be totally kosher if they dumped billions upon billions worth of military contracts like the US does, huh?

Both entities subisidize their respective industrial bases.

Your joking right?  Who else is supposed to do Military work.


The EU takes protectionism to a whole different level then the US.

 

But that's the point, the US government throws billions at boeing the same way the EU does with Airbus.

Each entity uses different means to channel public money towards the aeronautic conglomerates but at the end, both Boeing and Airbus get a nice bottom line boost courtesy from public budgets.





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Bitmap Frogs said:
Kasz216 said:
Bitmap Frogs said:
Yeah, and it'd be totally kosher if they dumped billions upon billions worth of military contracts like the US does, huh?

Both entities subisidize their respective industrial bases.

Your joking right?  Who else is supposed to do Military work.


The EU takes protectionism to a whole different level then the US.

 

But that's the point, the US government throws billions at boeing the same way the EU does with Airbus.

Each entity uses different means to channel public money towards the aeronautic conglomerates but at the end, both Boeing and Airbus get a nice bottom line boost courtesy from public budgets.

Not at all.  A military contract is something done for the government.  Pay for work.

What the EU was doing was completely different.


The US gave money to Boeing for MILITARY planes.

The EU gave money to Airbus for CIVILIAN planes.

One was for a product of the state... the other was to give Airbus an advantage.



Kasz216 said:
Bitmap Frogs said:
Kasz216 said:
Bitmap Frogs said:
Yeah, and it'd be totally kosher if they dumped billions upon billions worth of military contracts like the US does, huh?

Both entities subisidize their respective industrial bases.

Your joking right?  Who else is supposed to do Military work.


The EU takes protectionism to a whole different level then the US.

 

But that's the point, the US government throws billions at boeing the same way the EU does with Airbus.

Each entity uses different means to channel public money towards the aeronautic conglomerates but at the end, both Boeing and Airbus get a nice bottom line boost courtesy from public budgets.

Not at all.  A military contract is something done for the government.  Pay for work.

What the EU was doing was completely different.


The US gave money to Boeing for MILITARY planes.

The EU gave money to Airbus for CIVILIAN planes.

One was for a product of the state... the other was to give Airbus an advantage.

 

But whatever profit Boeing's military projects generate is propping up other divisions as well. 

Heck, the american military is overstocked - the White House and Congress are just throwing candy all over Boeing and other military contractors in exchange for hardware that's gonna rot in warehouses or just used as a toy for military training games. If anything the EU was wiser since they cut the middlemen and just dumped money into Airbus lap without the need to spend additional public budgets into useless hardware. The pork barrel spending such as avionics development programs under NASA budget whos results are then loaned off to boeing are as government subsidy as Airbus' state-backed credit lines.

Anyways this is not gonna change much. It's going to be at least 2-5 years before this gets anywhere near any of the companies budget and the WTO still has to decide on the US government propping up Boeing. 

The fact remains that Airbus makes excellent planes and that the quality of the product is what's hurting Boeing - which by the way can't get their latest plane off the factories yet after several delays. Let's bet, what's gonna happen sooner... this ruling being enforced or the 787 rolling off the manufacturing plant?

Heck, not to mention the US has just dumped billions into propping up two car-makers which under the rules of free market should be already extinct. If free market and all that jazz was to be enforced no American car would be on sale in the States besides Fords.





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