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JEDE3 said:
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JEDE3 said:
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Domicinator said:
DjFlex53 said:

Oh lord, another one of these threads?.....Sony fans justifying their console choice, though, most people really don't care unless they own a PS3.

You can't even compare the 2 services. The main reason why is BECAUSE PSN is free so noone knows if people would think it has enough value to pay for it. While we DO know that 20 million gamers buy the 360 Gold membership every year because they DO think it's worth it. Bottom line.....Xbox Live is better service because people actually PAY to use it for its exclusive features.

So would you pay for PSN with the features it now has? I doubt it since Sony fans complain about the 360 Gold membership cost even though it has more features than PSN.

I am a very big fan of Xbox 360.  I love my 360.  I had absolutely zero plans to buy a PS3 because I didn't think the price drop would actually be a permanent one on the new redesign and that didn't sound very promising for the platform.  But the price drop did happen on the Slim, and that changed the whole situation, at least in my mind. 

Now that I have both consoles, it's nice to be able to look at both objectively.  And what I've come up with is that Microsoft needs to think of a way to keep people thinking they need to pay for Xbox Live.  Again, I will mention that I literally JUST renewed my Gold membership for the next year.  I have too many friends and family members with 360s that want to play online and don't have PS3s, so for that, I will stay a member.  Next year may be another story, who knows?  What I'm saying is that even the stuff MS hasn't added yet can pretty much already be done on the PS3 for free.  Granted, Facebook, Twitter, and Last.FM will probably be much better streamlined for a console setting than they are on the PS3's browser, so the 360 will have the advantage as far as format.

And people DO care about this other than PS3 owners.  When I told my wife I was going to buy a PS3, she said, "Oh no, how much is THAT going to cost per year?"  She was absolutely shocked when I told her it was all free.  In fact, every time she sees me doing something on PSN, she asks, "How much did you have to pay for that?"  99.99% of the time, my answer is, "Nothing."  She was also shocked that the wireless was built in and that it could stream media just as well as the 360.  (Though the 360 wins hands down there because it's a Media Center Extender.)

As far as your "more features" comment-----don't know about that.  I think pound for pound, it probably evens out.  But I still maintain that you get a lot more free video content on PSN than you do on the 360.  I would kill for NXE to have some free 1080p video of ANYTHING.  Even Major's Minute for crying out loud.  We buy these consoles to play on our HD TVs, so it's really nice to have some HD video content to browse through.

Really, I'm not trying to knock one and hate on the other.  Microsoft is really the king of online console gaming--they have done a really good job of establishing Xbox Live and it works very very well.  All I'm saying is that they need to get on their horses and do something.  At the beginning of the generation it was easy to explain why you would pay for Live.  Now it's a little harder.  I had a friend at work recently ask me if he should buy a 360 Elite or a PS3 Slim.  He knew I was a big 360 fan but had heard about the price drop, and he wanted his console to have a hard drive.  Now, what am I supposed to say to that guy.  If you compare the 360 Elite at $299 and the PS3 at $299, would it have really been fair to my friend for me to tell him to get a 360?  Think before you answer that.  Throw away the fanboy stuff and really really think about it.  When you buy a PS3 and take it out of the box, you are ready to go.  There are no costly add ons aside from an extra controller if you want one.  Chances are you already have a bluetooth headset.  And not to mention the BluRay thing, which can NO LONGER be discarded as a trivial add on.  The public has latched on to BluRay.  It's here to stay.  And it's awesome. 

All I'm trying to say is that the game has now changed.  You simply can't deny it.  You don't have to buy a PS3, but if you're Microsoft, you can't shrug it off any longer just because it's 8 million units behind.  I think that situation is going to change quicker than people think.

 

Microsoft hasn't shrugged off any competitor this gen. The game has changed 4-5 times already this gen. Have you been paying attention?

For you to say that you don't know about 360 having more features is suspect considering every PSN fan on here has conceded that they wish they had cross game chat which supersedes alot of PSN's minor exclusive features. BTW, the public has not latched onto Blu-Ray...it's still a niche feature. I rarely hear of an Xbox gamer saying that they wish they had a feature from PSN.

Finally, all I can say is that we will all see after the holiday season who's gameplan has worked better  Good luck!

 


speak for yourself. PSN does well for me and I dontr need cross game chat. I'm not playing onlineto make friends. I'm doing it to play a game and pass the time

Well, you are in the minority since most xbox gamers wish they had could add more than 100 friends on their friends list. I think it would be hard for you to MAKE friends anyway. Most gamers ALREADY have friends and play with them online. And we differ in another way....I don't play games to pass time...o_O

I play for enjoyment & challenge and when I'm online I also play for comraderie with friends.


Lol.. every person I add on my friends list gets deleted. I dont have problem making friends and I have enough friends that I hang out with on my list. Youre just being ignorant from your very first post in this thread till now.

I can see that you didn't re-read your comment before you clicked "post" because it made no sense.

You calling me ignorant is like the pot calling the kettle black and i'm being generous.

Lastly, for you to say you don't need cross game chat is the dumbest thing i've ever read in VGC. So if Sony adds it to PSN you would never use it because you don't need it....you can't keep putting your foot in your mouth like this...can you?



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Euphoria14 said:
My god DJ, have a discussion and enough with the insults.

This thread quickly just turned to shit.


It always the same. So when Jede insulted me first....that was OK.

But my god DJ you have to stop, please.

This thread was shit from the start...why does PSN need a total defense in the first place?

You forgot it was already touted as being better than xbox live in a bunch of other threads already?



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LOL, Oh no... Whatever will I do without cross game chat... If it's taken away from me how will I live...

Oh.. wait...

I don't have it and I don't use it... so... no... I don't need it. And I don't see myself using it.



You came into the thread and said something on the lines of "Another one of these threads... Sony fans just trying to justify their purchase".

So anyways, i'm going to head over here to this thread about "Why LIVE is worth the subscription cost".

I hope to see you there bitching about it being "Another one of those threads... XBox fans just trying to justify their purchase".

I notice you may have missed that one.

See you there friend!!

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=84499



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DjFlex53 said:
Euphoria14 said:
My god DJ, have a discussion and enough with the insults.

This thread quickly just turned to shit.


It always the same. So when Jede insulted me first....that was OK.

But my god DJ you have to stop, please.

This thread was shit from the start...why does PSN need a total defense in the first place?

You forgot it was already touted as being better than xbox live in a bunch of other threads already?


I have a suggestion. Instead of comming in here starting trouble how about you stick to your 360 threads? Why does it matter why the OP wanted to tell us about his experience? The OP thought he'd share his new console experience with the rest of us and start a conversation but you came in here to cause problems and derailed the thread. Now scoot along.



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@CGI

It aint so bad. All he has to do is post that in that thread and it makes me have to shut up.

Kowenicki did it once.



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I'm just waiting for him to generalize the whole Ps3 fanbase again. That's the only thing I'm against. It's annoying as hell.



DjFlex53 said:
Euphoria14 said:
My god DJ, have a discussion and enough with the insults.

This thread quickly just turned to shit.


It always the same. So when Jede insulted me first....that was OK.

But my god DJ you have to stop, please.

This thread was shit from the start...why does PSN need a total defense in the first place?

You forgot it was already touted as being better than xbox live in a bunch of other threads already?

I missed this post.

He said it was a stupid post, which isn't as bad as going to things like calling people knuckleheads for believing something or making an attack on someones grammar as the point to a post. Anyways, he then said you were spouting FUD.

I just found out in this thread that the FUD thing is something that was posted on Kowenicki's wall. JEDE said he was going to respond to anyone who disagreed with him as "Them posting FUD".

So maybe that is why I took it differently than you did.

 

You also did quite a bit of generalizing. I own every console and handheld, but I could care less for cross game chat and feel that LIVE isn't good enough to the point of me spending $50 instead of getting free online gaming on my PS3/Wii/PC/etc...

It's just differing opinions.



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Euphoria14 said:
DjFlex53 said:
Euphoria14 said:
My god DJ, have a discussion and enough with the insults.

This thread quickly just turned to shit.


It always the same. So when Jede insulted me first....that was OK.

But my god DJ you have to stop, please.

This thread was shit from the start...why does PSN need a total defense in the first place?

You forgot it was already touted as being better than xbox live in a bunch of other threads already?

I missed this post.

He said it was a stupid post, which isn't as bad as going to things like calling people knuckleheads for believing something or making an attack on someones grammar as the point to a post. Anyways, he then said you were spouting FUD.

I just found out in this thread that the FUD thing is something that was posted on Kowenicki's wall. JEDE said he was going to respond to anyone who disagreed with him as "Them posting FUD".

So maybe that is why I took it differently than you did.


To get more insight about this read CGI's wall

Honestly guys, I could care less about this entire topic. I just needed something to do while my daughter was feeding from the bottle and I had one free arm.

This thread was open so I decided I should write something.



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