Why xbox live is not worth the price.

Who needs LIVE when you have www.vgchartz.com right?

Exactly Wow and the such. There are free alternatives to them yet people still chose to pay to play and thats fine.

To most people it's paying every month to play just one game? It's the ones who actually play it that understand why they pay. Same here.

I put this down to fanboys. Remember Sony fans attitude to the 360 getting DLC and having to pay for it a few years ago (I expect a no here) then when the PS3 starting doing the same it was fine. I guarantee if Sony started charging there would be uproar but as with all changes it would quiet down and be fine. People would pay. I haven't heard people complaining about having to buy the kit just to talk over the Wii which seems like a rip-off.

It's purely because it's not on their console of choice more than any real outrage. Or are 360 owners  who pay (some who own PS3 and Wii yet still pay) somehow different to all the gamers ever?

PS owners pay for qore. But enough of the competitors to illustrate that it's not a requirement. There are enough free alternatives and the demos on there become available to everyone later so why pay for it? The 360 has it's own version that is free. Most of the people outraged (who don't even have the console to be in a position to pay anyway) would pay if they had to.
Fact is people are paying for stuff that should be free on all consoles and the PC.

Lol that's the main reason I try to avoid multiplayer on all platforms wherever possible (I can't help myself in fifa 09)

So its acceptable to pay for Qore but not XBL even though you can get them for near the same price.   Right >_>

@Lord Flashheart............... Ok I'm not really sure what you're getting at here. My point is regardless of what console (you seem really hung up on this if it was Sony or Nintendo or everybody dislikes what they don't have thing) I have a problem paying to play a component of the game that is free elsewhere. People do pay to play WoW but that is the entire game, you have no choice if you wish to play it.
To put it simply I do not like paying for any part of the game that is reviewed ie was meant to be played if competitors offer it for free.
WoW is a different game to Guild Wars etc (Is that one of the free ones?). Therefore they are charging you to play there game. It's not as if you can play WoW for free somewhere else. In Live I pay to play a game online that I can play for free somewhere else.

But you don't need Qore to play online.

Which is why I will never subscribe to Qore this alone makes it an even bigger rip-off than live

Qore is optional, and i will never pay for it.

i just want my multiplayer online free. and i got it =).

XBL Gold is optional and a lot chose never to pay for it it just seems like some people here act like you HAVE to pay for it. Personally qore is a bigger rip-off as demos should be free.

You just don't get it. MP is no longer an afterthought. The current realm of videogames is such that given the type of game MP is a must. It is a part of the game to some people and I've even seen reviews scores take hits for it. This means that you are now essentially paying extra for the same game that already exists.

PS I agree that Qore is a bigger rip-off. But I'm guessing nobody really cares because no one feels like they are missing out on anything.