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ShadowSoldier on 29 August 2009
Dgc1808 said:

1) First and foremost, DO NOT GO FOR A BIG TECH LEAP. Just upgrade on the current PS3.

Shit, toss out the DDR3 and go for 2GB of XDR.

Improved Cell processor. I'm sure right now and fully working 8 SPU Cell at 6Ghz wouldn't be too much to manufacture over what the PS3 currently uses. Imagine 4 years from now.

Then of course there will be a GPU upgrade.

Go for a cheaper well build exterior like what the PS3 Slim. Oh, and we all didn't like the glossy finish btw... fingerprints, dust magnet, shows scratches from a single wipe if you don't use the proper cloth...

2) Make sure your main equipment comes with the system so that everything will be supported.

Seriously... the PSEye is an awesome tool, just look at Burnout, Eye of Judgement, the PSMotion controllers, Eyepet, GT5 and the smaller games on the PSN Store. It would have had so much more support or simply more uses in other games [Look at GT5 and Burnout] if it was packed in. Just look at what Sixaxis did for Folklore. SONY could push for my Sixaxis support... don't know why they don't... Here's some accessories the system should come with.

Your standard Video Cables and AC cable etc.

The standard controller bring back Sixaxis but more accurate.[and I say this because I feel motion controls should stay OPTIONAL]

PSEye, or what ever the next one will be called... but will we really need another? Doubt it.

The PS Motion or what ever it will be called. [So we know it will be supported]

You may be wondering why I didn't put "Headset". Well that's because the PSEye is much better. Pics up my voice from anywhere in the room, has 4 microphones actually. Most importantly, unlike the official SONY head set it blocks out sound coming from your game. In an inclosed room the only sound getting through that mic is your voice, no matter how load you're playing. Even if you're using custom soundtracks. [Noticed this with killzone2]

This would all mean that these products are on a bigger scale of mass production, meaning they will cost you less to produce, while you don't really have to cut prices for them by much at all . Speaking of money...

3) If your launch price isn't 399 or less... DON'T BOTHER.

You weakened your brand greatly with the launch price of the PS3. It just shows that there aren't that many people willing to pay big, no matter how much the device can do. Bottom line, they see it as a game system first and foremost [I see it as much more, but i'm not the average Joe]. So they aren't going to compare with the price of anything except.... YOU GUESSED! ANOTHER GAME SYSTEM.

Speaking of price, since you will be using the PS3's architecture for the most part, development budgets shouldn't sky rocket like they did this gen. Meaning you have the option of NOT increasing game prices by another 10$. Look at the Wii. I honestly believe that a big part of the Wii's appeal is the price of the games. It sounds nice to say "Hey, 100 bucks will get me 2 completely brand new Wii games". We PS360 owners can't say that unless we're talking budget titles... 60$ seems to work though, no need to push your luck any further.

4) Stick with Blu-Ray

Just do it... there's no reason not too... The 2x Drive in the PS3 isn't fast enough though... a 4x Drive wouldn't cost much right now over the current. I don't see why the PS4 can't launch with an 8x Drive. Also, 50GB's is plenty, and there are already 100GB discs.

I think it's a given they'll stick with Blu-Ray, but I just wanted to put this out on the list anyway. It would be 100% pointless/stupid to switch to something else. 

This! Especially 3 and 4. I think Sony was humbled this gen when they saw the reaction the PS3 price point and I hope pray that Motion controls don't take over gaming completely I do know that quite a bit of gamers would rather have it as an option then the new standard controller. And Yes Sony needs to stick with Blu-Ray and ignore things like HVD and what ever may come along in the next 3 years. Upgrade the Blu-ray drive keep the costs down for them and the consumers and they should be fine, even if they come in last place again, at least this time it wont cost them as much money if they are smart about it.



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puffy on 29 August 2009

If Sony don't adopt motion controls as standard then they'll quickly become irrelevant in the market. The paradigm shift has occured, I'm actually worried about Sony for the next generation. The way Sony and Microsoft are handling their new controls tells me that Microsoft understands the values far better than Sony which makes PlayStation an endangered species..

Also @vitoaf27: So I guess all those people who bought a Wii aren't gamers? You know, the 'casual gamers' who only care about pick-up-and-play games and not high definition cut scenes? It's also interesting to note that if Zelda Wii were unveiled with no motion control support the up roar would be insane!



 

zaMy on 29 August 2009

I think Sony will sorta skip this gen with PS4, but make their new PlayStation the PSTouch. Then they can focus on the ps3 and pst, and make the PSTouch (its a handheld) unhackable, so they can acctually sell and profit alot off games.

Then, in about 2016-2017 Sony will release a PS4 before xbox4, possibably a year before. IRONY



puffy on 29 August 2009

@zaMy: Just imagine if the PS3 had never released, it was just the PS2 vs. Wii and 360. Skipping the next generation may seem feasible now, but technology and trends changes very fast and besides, the PS3 is already out of date (as is the 360) and that's why you see them adding motion controls.



 

DaBuddahN on 29 August 2009

1. Sony needs to make sure that their price point is around 399.99 (adjust for inflation and such).

2. They need to make sure that important features are there at LAUNCH not through firmware updates! Like cross-game chat, in-game XMB, direct from XMB music!

3. They made a mistake by launching the PS3 with completely new IP's. New IP's are good, just not so good at launch. They need to bring the PS4 out with MGS5, GT6, Resistance 4(whatever) and maybe a new IP or two. New IP's should be reserved for after lunch.

4. Keep blu-ray, despite the hardships of bearing the costs now, it will be worth it.

5. Sony is doing good by introducing the first downloadable games onlu console (PSP Go!) they are taking the first step into the future where all games will be downloaded (maybe in 2 gens).



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susymar on 29 August 2009
vitoaf27 said:
^No. The majority of gamers do still prefer a standard controller. You're blind if you don't see that.

Wii - 52.71

x360 - 31.53

PS3 - 23.52

 

I see the majority here corresponds to 52.71, and it is not a classic control console.



vitoaf27 on 29 August 2009

^Oh really? 52.71>55.05?



dharh on 29 August 2009
puffy said:
If Sony don't adopt motion controls as standard then they'll quickly become irrelevant in the market. The paradigm shift has occured, I'm actually worried about Sony for the next generation. The way Sony and Microsoft are handling their new controls tells me that Microsoft understands the values far better than Sony which makes PlayStation an endangered species..

Also @vitoaf27: So I guess all those people who bought a Wii aren't gamers? You know, the 'casual gamers' who only care about pick-up-and-play games and not high definition cut scenes? It's also interesting to note that if Zelda Wii were unveiled with no motion control support the up roar would be insane!

You can do motion AND traditional controls as standard at the same time. There are no reasons why you have to choose one exclusively over the other. If SONY and MS dump traditional controls out the window guaranteed next gen will be smaller than this gen. 50% of the market is not the death nell of traditional controls.



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susymar on 29 August 2009
vitoaf27 said:
^Oh really? 52.71>55.05?

If you want to sum up consoles, I'll add the DS as a new gaming device. Because every portable from now on will have for shure a touch screen.

The same's with Wii Remote and motion control. Is the next step in gaming, Sony and Microsoft are late joining the party, and if you can't still see that you're the blind one. I'm sorry.

 

PS: When the Wii surpasses in the future the combined sales of the HD consoles what will be your excuse?



ShadowSoldier on 29 August 2009
susymar said:
vitoaf27 said:
^Oh really? 52.71>55.05?

If you want to sum up consoles, I'll add the DS as a new gaming device. Because every portable from now on will have for shure a touch screen.

The same's with Wii Remote and motion control. Is the next step in gaming, Sony and Microsoft are late joining the party, and if you can't still see that you're the blind one. I'm sorry.

 

PS: When the Wii surpasses in the future the combined sales of the HD consoles what will be your excuse?

If you want to add the DS then we'll just Add the PSP and PS2. Now I hate to bring up the casual and hardcore argument. But it seems to me that the hardcore's prefer traditional controllers with an option for motion control. Hell im still not sure which version of twilight Princess to get because while  like Motion controls I prefer traditional controllers all together



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"In video game terms, RPGs are games that involve a form of separate battles taking place with a specialized battle system and the use of a system that increases your power through a form of points.

Sure, what you say is the definition, but the connotation of RPGs is what they are in video games." - dtewi