dtewi said:
theARTIST0017 said:
Twizzler said:
Sigh.
This argument will go on and on because it is an issue, like assisted suicide or abortion that people have deep seated feeling about.
I guess all I have to say is:
If two men or two women have a relationship, or get married, does it affect your ability to get married or have kids? No? Then why do you even care? For religious reasons? Fine, keep them to yourself. You choose your religion I didn't.
If you believe it to be wrong because we are "choosing" an immoral lifestyle, I ask you to honestly assess your life and pinpoint the exact moment during adolescence when you "chose" to be heterosexual. I'll give you a hint, you can't do it, because you didn't choose to be heterosexual anymore than I chose to be gay, you just went through puberty and realized you were attracted to the opposite sex, much like I went through puberty and found myself attracted to the same sex.
For those of you who feel we shouldn't celebrate pride and "flaunt" our homosexuality, realize that most minorities have some sort of pride demonstration because it provides a moment of solidarity when we can say that we will not be marginalized and criminalized. Our gay agenda is to have equal rights as heterosexuals, nothing more, nothing less. Like the womans suffrage movement or the civil rights movement it is slow and we face opposition, but we will get there. There are still large portions of the world where you can be killed for being gay. You really think gay Iraqis choose to be gay, knowing they have a high chance of being tortured and killed? For all of you white, middle class, heterosexual males out there, try and think of one time where you have been a part of any minority and then humbly accept how ridiculously easy you have it.
If you think the act of gay sex is gross, well fine with me, fantasize about something else. I certainly don't think of vaginas or breasts appealing.
Personally I don't care if you have a problem with homosexuality. Hate me for it, I don't care. You can go be with other like-minded individuals and I will be all the happier for not knowing or caring about you. But stay out of my way. Because unlike you, we have a tangible benefit to fighting for equality, and we will get it.
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Answer - Good question. I think it's nasty I was just expressing my opinion I can do that oh and don't forget that there are gay christians out there.
6. Fine, keep [your religious values] to yourself.
Answer - Why?
8. I ask you to honestly assess your life and pinpoint the exact moment during adolescence when you "chose" to be heterosexual.
Answer - Birth.
9. I'll give you a hint, you can't do it, because you didn't choose to be heterosexual anymore than I chose to be gay.
Answer - Really, so I have no choice?
10. you just went through puberty and realized you were attracted to the opposite sex, much like I went through puberty and found myself attracted to the same sex.
Answer - Umm so what about those who find attraction before puberty?
11. Our gay agenda is to have equal rights as heterosexuals.
Answer - There's nothing wrong with that, except for the marriage part because marriage is a religious tradition and that is an abomination to GOD.
12. There are still large portions of the world where you can be killed for being gay.
Answer - Unfortunately, man is sinful, but remember, in my religion being gay is a sin so I believe that both the killer and the victim have sinned.
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The ones I consider important.
6. Why? Because no one wants beliefs forced upon them.
8. You "chose" it at birth? You mean you were born that way? Or did you have a conscious choice when your brain was barely developed and you didn't know what sex was?
9. You are blatantly contradicting yourself. You're implying you do have a choice when you said you clearly don't.
10. I don't think there is sexual attraction before puberty.
11. Marriage is an abomination to god? I won't argue with that silly millenia old book, but if that's your basis for morals, then it's a pretty poor choice.
12. So the person sinned for being attracted to the same sex? And they deserve to be killed?
Why does God even care about attraction anyway? So one man is attracted to another? Why is that an abomination? Why do they deserve to burn in hellfire for it? WHY DOES IT MATTER? Is it because the bible says so? Why does the bible say so? Why does God want them to go to hell?
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6. Nobody was forcing beliefs upon anyone.
8. It was just a misunderstanding. Obviously I didn't "choose" to be that way when I was born. But are people born gay? Eh, they might be. I think thats where I was going with that.
9. Again, because I'm not sure whether you are born gay or not. Could it be that we have a choice absolutely.
10. Can you prove this?
11. You twisted my words. I didn't mean "marriage" I meant "gay marriage".
12. Sinned? Yes. Because "sinning" is christian/catholic based. Deserved to be killed? No. Only GOD can judge someone and he already said "thou shall not kill"
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1. Why does God even care about attraction anyway?
Answer - Your questioning the Almighty One?
2. So one man is attracted to another? Why is that an abomination?
Answer - Well I don't know if your religious or not, but it is an abomination to GOD because he created man in his image, and him a women to procreate. Adam and Eve.
3. Why do they deserve to burn in hellfire for it?
Answer - Well I'll leave GOD himself to answer that for you but knowing that its sinful to be gay and not caring is a sure way to hellfire.
4. Is it because the bible says so?
Answer - Well . . . yes.
5. Why does God want them to go to hell?
Answer - He doesn't that is why he teaches those who believe his ways and asks them to spread the word.