I think, that is exactly what is happening in this thread. (except that "hate" thing, no one really took it that far).  

Some people told their personal opinion about the whole thing. No one wants to kill gays, ban them, or anything like that. 

I think we can all agree that it would be very ironic, if in the name of freedom, we would be restricted to say our opinion.

That's actually one of my main problems with modern liberal thinking: "You are allowed to say anything, except "liberalism sucks". Everyone is equal, except those retarded bigots who don't believe that everyone is equal, they should be chemically castrated." (someone actually suggested this in this thread)

1. This argument will go on and on because it is an issue, like assisted suicide or abortion that people have deep seated feeling about.

Answer - Yes. I am also against both suicide and abortion.

2. If two men or two women have a relationship, or get married, does it affect your ability to get married or have kids?

Answer - No but not really relevant. The opposition I have is against serious homosexual behavior. I'm just against it. Yeah it doesn't affect my ability to get married or have kids dut that doesn't mean I believe it's right.

3. No?

Answer - Umm no?

4. Then why do you even care?

Answer - Good question. I think it's nasty I was just expressing my opinion I can do that oh and don't forget that there are gay christians out there.

5. For religious reasons?

Answer - Well if your gay and your a christian/catholic, yeah that would cause some problems. Are you religious?

6. Fine, keep them to yourself.

Answer - Why?

7. You choose your religion I didn't.

Answer - Ok.

8. I ask you to honestly assess your life and pinpoint the exact moment during adolescence when you "chose" to be heterosexual.

Answer - Birth.

9. I'll give you a hint, you can't do it, because you didn't choose to be heterosexual anymore than I chose to be gay.

Answer - Really, so I have no choice?

10. you just went through puberty and realized you were attracted to the opposite sex, much like I went through puberty and found myself attracted to the same sex.

Answer - Umm so what about those who find attraction before puberty?

11. Our gay agenda is to have equal rights as heterosexuals.

Answer - There's nothing wrong with that, except for the marriage part because marriage is a religious tradition and that is an abomination to GOD.

12. There are still large portions of the world where you can be killed for being gay.

Answer - Unfortunately, man is sinful, but remember, in my religion being gay is a sin so I believe that both the killer and the victim have sinned.

13. You really think gay Iraqis choose to be gay, knowing they have a high chance of being tortured and killed?

Answer - Some people in this world would rather die than to give up something they love.

14. For all of you white, middle class, heterosexual males out there,

Answer - Oh he's not talking to me O.o

15. If you think the act of gay sex is gross, well fine with me, fantasize about something else.

Answer - Eww gay sex is gross. More gross in men though (cause i'm a guy).

16. I certainly don't think of vaginas or breasts appealing.

Answer - Your missing out :P

17. Hate me for it, I don't care.

Answer - I don't hate you I said that in the begginning.

18. But stay out of my way.

Answer - Whoooah!

19. Because unlike you, we have a tangible benefit to fighting for equality, and we will get it.

Answer - Wait, are you still talking to the white peoples?

Well, I'm not a huge fan of homosexuals either, mainly due to their activities. I mean I always see lesbians snogging on street corners (disgusting), but I never see straight folks doing that. Also, I know this is very stereotypical of me and there are alot of gays out there who are different, but I see most homosexuals as people who aren't interested in meaningful relationships but more just sex, like they seek fuck-buddies rather than partners.

Personal experiences put me off homosexuals, I get uncomfortable when I see gays or lesbains snogging or touching on the streets, it's just not nice imo.

Flame me, do whatever you like. This is my opinion, and I know I have been stereotypical. There are good gays out there. Keep in mind that I live in Ireland which is basically made up of white straight people. There are basically no black people or homosexuals where I live.

the idea came from that

If you KNEW that you were using stereotypes and KNEW that your country has a low homosexual population and you KNEW it would piss people off, why the hell would you post it other than to be a complete ass?

this.

Ugh, some people need to toughen up. I never insulted anyone in my post, I gave my opinion, come back with something not so sensitive and more constructive next time.

The ones I consider important.

6. Why? Because no one wants beliefs forced upon them.

8. You "chose" it at birth? You mean you were born that way? Or did you have a conscious choice when your brain was barely developed and you didn't know what sex was?

9. You are blatantly contradicting yourself. You're implying you do have a choice when you said you clearly don't.

10. I don't think there is sexual attraction before puberty.

11. Marriage is an abomination to god? I won't argue with that silly millenia old book, but if that's your basis for morals, then it's a pretty poor choice.

12. So the person sinned for being attracted to the same sex? And they deserve to be killed?

Why does God even care about attraction anyway? So one man is attracted to another? Why is that an abomination? Why do they deserve to burn in hellfire for it? WHY DOES IT MATTER? Is it because the bible says so? Why does the bible say so? Why does God want them to go to hell?

You used stereotypes. Those are insulting. What if I used the stereotype every conservative I met are gay-bashing bible-loving republicans? It may be true for a few, but to say it like it applies to everyone is an insult.

I wouldn't use the word "flaunt", as someone said, hetrosexuals "flaunt" their sexuality all the time. I'm opposed specificly to taking pride in anything normal like the pigment of your skin, your sexual orientation, your nationality, etc.

I won't deny other if holding pride gives them solace, that feeling for them is real. However, I can definetly tell them that the basis for that pride is illogical, and that they're being delusional for the sake of pleasure. It's a false reality that allows them to feel special, and while feeling special, good, normal, accepted is all positive, if the basis for that is false, then it's a negative thing.

My analogy for all sorts of "X" pride, is when you're little, you're told that you're special, unique, awesome, etc. In fact, it feels like so because EVERYTHING is worthy of pride nowadays. Everyone will say "X nation, pride!" everyone will say "X race pride!". I'm sure you Twizzler, won't tell whites or hetrosexuals to not be proud of their own beings. And that's when the PC bullshit starts and people don't think, and now you have to allow people to be proud of everything unquestioned.

Please, tell me, what is pride worthy, of wanting to have sexual intercourse with someone of the same sex? What does it tell about your character, to be born on a certain piece of land? What have you done to be able to claim the pride garnered by the ancestors that share the last name?

I'm assuming that for something to be pride worthy it has to be a POSITIVE thing or quality. If you win an award, you can say it tells something about your character, such as being a hard worker, a skilled person, etc. I'm sure no one will say that there's nothing NEGATIVE about being an homosexual, but I don't see why that then transitions to homosexuality being a POSITIVE thing? I can't call it hypocricy or a contradiction really, but it just seems strange how we're willing to see how illogical it is for bigots to attribute something simple as a sexual orientation as an "ideal" or "negative", but then pretty much follow in their exact same footsteps, and illogicacy, and say it's a postitive thing now.

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Why can't we simply not be ashamed? Simply be neutral? Race, sexual orientation, nationality, etc are colorless. They don't mean anything. They're not positive or negative. They're just FACTS. The people who are discriminated, ashamed, and looked down upon are done so by the people who are praised, proud, and looked up at. It's the attiribution of positives and negatives to absolutely worthless things that result in conflict in the first place.

Replacing inferiority with superiority doesn't fix a damn thing.

I mean look at what taking pride in nationality does, fucking internet debates between asian countries, European football fans starting riots, looking at oneself as the police of the world...

Please tell me, please justify to me, what POSITIVE thing is there about wanting to have sexual intercourse with the same sex. I'm not arguing that it's negative whatsoever, in case you've skipped my entire rant. I'm just asking what positives there are in a simple fact such as sexual orientation.

I'm not opposed to gay parades really, as long as they're only about awareness, not about pride. I don't care it if people plaster "I'm Gay" on their T-Shirts, I only care if in the inside, they feel that they're special, unique, etc, just like mommy and daddy told us when we were all kids, because of their sexual orientation.

I just fucking hate it when people think illogically, and we can't question it because we're mistaked as bigots. I fucking hate Political corectness for making discussion and questioning taboo. I think that there's nothing negative about homosexuality, and I find it just as illogical to try to say that there's something positive about it.