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All the great games and all the great franchises that Yu Suzuki gave us and he only finishes 12th?

The man is a genius and one of only a handful of people at the forefront of 3D gaming long before it became what it is today.

Also, would arcades have been anywhere near as popular as they were back in the day if it wasn't for Yu suzuki and all those great arcade games he gave us? i doubt it.

Hang your heads in shame non Yu Suzuki voters.



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I am non Yu Suzuki voter and so hang my head in shame













yeah right ok so i respect Yu Suzuki but to be honest there are soem other who have done more than him



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also where is the next one aren't we a day behind?



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Wii_Master, we have been up to date perfectly well each day. If you don't stop harassing me, I WILL stop updating. Be patient and WAIT.



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Ronster316 said:

It may be quite a challenge to justify some positions that people are in that we will be seeing too.

Ken Kutaragi *Cough*

So, yea.

Nintendo and Sony come together to make a console, they fall out (Nintendo equally if not moreso responsible), so Nintendo go behind Sony's back to Phillips. Sony decide that gaming isn't an area for them, however Kutaragi persuades Sony otherwise. Kutaragi then creates and introduces the Playstation, the first disc based console ever. The Playstation reached out to over 100M people, made gaming mainstream and not a 'nerds only' thing, and created in a sense many of the best franchises to date.

So he made gaming alot more hip and popular, used innovative technology, and is responsible for alot of loved franchies and one of the most powerful entertainment brands.

What a twat!



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Was banned so couldn't vote...
But maker of Devil May Cry should be there ( I think it was same as Res, Shinji but Wikipedia said Hideki Kamiya )



 

 

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The Truth said:
Ronster316 said:

It may be quite a challenge to justify some positions that people are in that we will be seeing too.

Ken Kutaragi *Cough*

So, yea.

Nintendo and Sony come together to make a console, they fall out (Nintendo equally if not moreso responsible), so Nintendo go behind Sony's back to Phillips. Sony decide that gaming isn't an area for them, however Kutaragi persuades Sony otherwise. Kutaragi then creates and introduces the Playstation, the first disc based console ever. The Playstation reached out to over 100M people, made gaming mainstream and not a 'nerds only' thing, and created in a sense many of the best franchises to date.

So he made gaming alot more hip and popular, used innovative technology, and is responsible for alot of loved franchies and one of the most powerful entertainment brands.

What a twat!

The sarcasm is strong with this one. I was going to reply to Ronster's post but I'm glad you beat me to it, lol.



The Truth said:
Ronster316 said:

It may be quite a challenge to justify some positions that people are in that we will be seeing too.

Ken Kutaragi *Cough*

So, yea.

Nintendo and Sony come together to make a console, they fall out (Nintendo equally if not moreso responsible), so Nintendo go behind Sony's back to Phillips. Sony decide that gaming isn't an area for them, however Kutaragi persuades Sony otherwise. Kutaragi then creates and introduces the Playstation, the first disc based console ever. The Playstation reached out to over 100M people, made gaming mainstream and not a 'nerds only' thing, and created in a sense many of the best franchises to date.

So he made gaming alot more hip and popular, used innovative technology, and is responsible for alot of loved franchies and one of the most powerful entertainment brands.

What a twat!


The truth? not living up to your name with the above sentences.

Theres an awful lot of spin you have put in to that story.

Also i wouldn't say it was Ken that made sonys consoles popular, i would say it has more to do with sonys advertising and financial muscle back then.

PS1 first disc based console? So, what are the Sega CD and Sega saturn? Cartridge based consoles? you do know that the only reason why Nintendo were going to use CD's in the first place is because they heard that Sega and NEC had teamed up and were working on a disc based console. So i ask you, how on earth is the playstation the first disc based console *cough* ever?

You clearly get your info from pro Sony/Kutaragi sites.

Heres the truth............................... 

The first conceptions of the PlayStation date back to 1986. Nintendo had been attempting to work with disc technology since the Famicom, but the medium had problems. Its rewritable magnetic nature could be easily erased (thus leading to a lack of durability), and the discs were a copyright infringement danger. Consequently, when details of CDROM/XA (an extension of the CD-ROM format that combines compressed audio, visual and computer data, allowing all to be accessed simultaneously) came out, Nintendo was interested. CD-ROM/XA was being simultaneously developed by Sony and Philips. Nintendo approached Sony to develop a CD-ROM add-on, tentatively titled the "SNES-CD". A contract was signed, and work began. Nintendo's choice of Sony was due to a prior dealing: Ken Kutaragi, the person who would later be dubbed "The Father of PlayStation", was the individual who had sold Nintendo on using the Sony SPC-700 processor for use as the eight-channel ADPCM sound synthesis set in the Super Famicom/SNES console through an impressive demonstration of the processor's capabilities.

Sony also planned to develop another, Nintendo compatible, Sony-branded console, but one which would be more of a home entertainment system playing both Super Nintendo cartridges and a new CD format which Sony would design. This was also to be the format used in SNES-CD discs, giving a large degree of control to Sony despite Nintendo's leading position in the video gaming market.

The SNES-CD was to be announced at the June 1991 Consumer Electronics Show (CES). However, when Hiroshi Yamauchi read the original 1988 contract between Sony and Nintendo, he realized that the earlier agreement essentially handed Sony complete control over any and all titles written on the SNES CD-ROM format. Yamauchi decided that the contract was totally unacceptable and he secretly canceled all plans for the joint Nintendo-Sony SNES CD attachment. Instead of announcing a partnership between Sony and Nintendo, at 9 a.m. the day of the CES, Nintendo chairman Howard Lincoln stepped onto the stage and revealed that Nintendo was now allied with Philips, and Nintendo was planning on abandoning all the previous work Nintendo and Sony had accomplished. Lincoln and Minoru Arakawa had, unbeknown to Sony, flown to Philips headquarters in Europe and formed an alliance of a decidedly different nature—one that would give Nintendo total control over its licenses on Philips machines.

After the collapse of the joint project, Sony considered halting their research, but ultimately the company decided to use what they had developed so far and make it into a complete, stand alone console. As a result, Nintendo filed a lawsuit claiming breach of contract and attempted, in U.S. federal court, to obtain an injunction against the release of the PlayStation, on the grounds that Nintendo owned the name. The federal judge presiding over the case denied the injunction and, in October 1991, the first incarnation of the new Sony PlayStation was revealed. However, it is theorized that only 200 or so of these machines were ever produced.

By the end of 1992, Sony and Nintendo reached a deal whereby the "Sony Play Station" would still have a port for SNES games, but Nintendo would own the rights and receive the bulk of the profits from the games, and the SNES would continue to use the Sony-designed audio chip. However, Sony decided in early 1993 to begin reworking the "Play Station" concept to target a new generation of hardware and software. As part of this process the SNES cartridge port was dropped and the space between the names was removed.

You think ken's all that? He works alongside nintendo, steals their hardware and software ideas and then BOOM, turns up on sonys doorstep and then the playstation is born.

I think i'll leave it at that.



Ronster316 said:
The Truth said:
Ronster316 said:

It may be quite a challenge to justify some positions that people are in that we will be seeing too.

Ken Kutaragi *Cough*


The truth? not living up to your name with the above sentences.

Theres an awful lot of spin you have put in to that story.

Also i wouldn't say it was Ken that made sonys consoles popular, i would say it has more to do with sonys advertising and financial muscle back then.

PS1 first disc based console? So, what are the Sega CD and Sega saturn? Cartridge based consoles?

You clearly get your info from pro Sony/Kutaragi sites.

Heres the truth............................... 

The first conceptions of the PlayStation date back to 1986. Nintendo had been attempting to work with disc technology since the Famicom, but the medium had problems. Its rewritable magnetic nature could be easily erased (thus leading to a lack of durability), and the discs were a copyright infringement danger. Consequently, when details of CDROM/XA (an extension of the CD-ROM format that combines compressed audio, visual and computer data, allowing all to be accessed simultaneously) came out, Nintendo was interested. CD-ROM/XA was being simultaneously developed by Sony and Philips. Nintendo approached Sony to develop a CD-ROM add-on, tentatively titled the "SNES-CD". A contract was signed, and work began. Nintendo's choice of Sony was due to a prior dealing: Ken Kutaragi, the person who would later be dubbed "The Father of PlayStation", was the individual who had sold Nintendo on using the Sony SPC-700 processor for use as the eight-channel ADPCM sound synthesis set in the Super Famicom/SNES console through an impressive demonstration of the processor's capabilities.

Sony also planned to develop another, Nintendo compatible, Sony-branded console, but one which would be more of a home entertainment system playing both Super Nintendo cartridges and a new CD format which Sony would design. This was also to be the format used in SNES-CD discs, giving a large degree of control to Sony despite Nintendo's leading position in the video gaming market.

The SNES-CD was to be announced at the June 1991 Consumer Electronics Show (CES). However, when Hiroshi Yamauchi read the original 1988 contract between Sony and Nintendo, he realized that the earlier agreement essentially handed Sony complete control over any and all titles written on the SNES CD-ROM format. Yamauchi decided that the contract was totally unacceptable and he secretly canceled all plans for the joint Nintendo-Sony SNES CD attachment. Instead of announcing a partnership between Sony and Nintendo, at 9 a.m. the day of the CES, Nintendo chairman Howard Lincoln stepped onto the stage and revealed that Nintendo was now allied with Philips, and Nintendo was planning on abandoning all the previous work Nintendo and Sony had accomplished. Lincoln and Minoru Arakawa had, unbeknown to Sony, flown to Philips headquarters in Europe and formed an alliance of a decidedly different nature—one that would give Nintendo total control over its licenses on Philips machines.

After the collapse of the joint project, Sony considered halting their research, but ultimately the company decided to use what they had developed so far and make it into a complete, stand alone console. As a result, Nintendo filed a lawsuit claiming breach of contract and attempted, in U.S. federal court, to obtain an injunction against the release of the PlayStation, on the grounds that Nintendo owned the name. The federal judge presiding over the case denied the injunction and, in October 1991, the first incarnation of the new Sony PlayStation was revealed. However, it is theorized that only 200 or so of these machines were ever produced.

By the end of 1992, Sony and Nintendo reached a deal whereby the "Sony Play Station" would still have a port for SNES games, but Nintendo would own the rights and receive the bulk of the profits from the games, and the SNES would continue to use the Sony-designed audio chip. However, Sony decided in early 1993 to begin reworking the "Play Station" concept to target a new generation of hardware and software. As part of this process the SNES cartridge port was dropped and the space between the names was removed.

You think ken's all that? He works alongside nintendo, steals their hardware and software ideas and then BOOM, turns up on sonys doorstep and then the playstation is born.

I think i'll leave it at that.

You don't have to like his methods, but you can't say that he wasn't influential or important to the way the industry has been shaped. He belongs on this list, regardless of his morals, or that of the company paying his wages. I know Nintendo fanboys that have less hate for him and Sony than you appear to.

To be honest, it all sounds like Sony and Nintendo were equally to blame for their relationship turning sour, and if there was anything to Nintendo's claims then the injunction would most likely have gone through and the Sony Playstation wouldn't have been released.



thetonestarr said:
Wii_Master, we have been up to date perfectly well each day. If you don't stop harassing me, I WILL stop updating. Be patient and WAIT.

 



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