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Forums - Nintendo - Pachter at it again - Speaks about Wii's situation in light of HD prices

Destroyer_of_knights said:
I wonder why people can't consider the possibility that patcher could actually be right?
And if he is right, what does that spell for Nintendo?
Hell, what does that even say about Nintendo?

Only the arrogant ignore the obvious, and in this case they ignore the analyst despite them admitting that sales have slowed this year in comparison to last year...and like an arrogant company they are doomed to fall, it happened to Sony, so it could happen to Nintendo despite people thinking it wont, but the possibility is always there.


I also wonder things, for example i wonder why the core can still stand on their pedistals and laugh "down" on the Wii when MS and Sony breaks their legs to move more in line with it?  If Nintendo is being arrogant why are their compeators so activly trying to find a foot hold in Nintendos market place? What happened to Nintendo being doomed without hd and we would see Wii hd or Nintendo being 3ed party to sony in the near future?

Pachter is a fucking idiot and this market prediction smells like a baby's dipper. Nintendo are far from infailable but it takes a speical mindset to try and constantly belittle what they have and are still accomplishing this gen. THis year is down over last year, but they are still selling more then their compation combined. yeah i'd hate to have nintendos problems right now.



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Destroyer_of_knights said:
I wonder why people can't consider the possibility that patcher could actually be right?
And if he is right, what does that spell for Nintendo? Dee, oh, oh, em spellls DOOOOOOOOOM
Hell, what does that even say about Nintendo?

Only the arrogant ignore the obvious, and in this case they ignore the analyst despite them admitting that sales have slowed this year in comparison to last year...and like an arrogant company they are doomed to fall, it happened to Sony, so it could happen to Nintendo despite people thinking it wont, but the possibility is always there.

 



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

blunty51 said:
Khuutra said:

I just passed eight thousand posts by arguing about steak.

I'm not sure how to feel about that.

I can't tell you how much that just made me laugh

For the record this conversation was actually a lot more interesting.

 

NEWSFLASH****

T-Bone steak to get price cut!!



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

Destroyer_of_knights said:
I wonder why people can't consider the possibility that patcher could actually be right?
And if he is right, what does that spell for Nintendo?
Hell, what does that even say about Nintendo?

Only the arrogant ignore the obvious, and in this case they ignore the analyst despite them admitting that sales have slowed this year in comparison to last year...and like an arrogant company they are doomed to fall, it happened to Sony, so it could happen to Nintendo despite people thinking it wont, but the possibility is always there.

You are right  -- Pachter could be right. But the next time he is right about the Wii will be the first.

He has been predicting gloom and doom for the console for almost four years.  And he has been wrong for almost four years.

 

MIke from Morgantown



      


I am Mario.


I like to jump around, and would lead a fairly serene and aimless existence if it weren't for my friends always getting into trouble. I love to help out, even when it puts me at risk. I seem to make friends with people who just can't stay out of trouble.

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Pyro as Bill said:
blunty51 said:
Khuutra said:

I just passed eight thousand posts by arguing about steak.

I'm not sure how to feel about that.

I can't tell you how much that just made me laugh

For the record this conversation was actually a lot more interesting.

 

NEWSFLASH****

T-Bone steak to get price cut!!

lol people get your T-Bone cause its gonna get a price cut

and slimmer!

 

sales will spike for the T-Bone says patcher again



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Wii_Master said:
Pyro as Bill said:
blunty51 said:
Khuutra said:

I just passed eight thousand posts by arguing about steak.

I'm not sure how to feel about that.

I can't tell you how much that just made me laugh

For the record this conversation was actually a lot more interesting.

 

NEWSFLASH****

T-Bone steak to get price cut!!

lol people get your T-Bone cause its gonna get a price cut

and slimmer!

 

sales will spike for the T-Bone says patcher again

I'ts selling it at a loss though because it includes a grill. Hamburgers are doomed.



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

^^ hahaha how did you manage to find that??
Confirmed: PS3 does everything, ever.



Khuutra said:
puffy said:
reask said:
He has a point but I think the Wii has a different market.
Only time will tell really.
Nothing stopping Ninty dropping the price either if they feel they have to.

No.. just no..

Also @ Khuutra: You just passed 8000 posts, congrats!

I just passed eight thousand posts by arguing about steak.

I'm not sure how to feel about that.

I'll say the big 8k was me yelling at Starcraft in another topic. That's much better.

what made you yell at Starcraft?

On Topic: I'm wonder who makes the right predictions more often. MikeB or Pachter?



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

RisenTerran said:
*sigh* This guy has changed his song so many times -_-

Thogh I do agree Nintendo needs a $50-$75 Price cut.

Wrong. Nintendo needs to continue to drive VALUE.

MS has had units cheaper than Nintendo for a long time now in every region, yet Wii still sells 2x the 360 most of the time. It does this with no HDD, HD, downloadable movies, DVD, or Live.

How? By creating value in other aspects and offering features that are similar to the others.

HDD ~ SDHC support (when considering this is far more than sutable for anything Wii utilizes right now)
Live Arcade < WW/VC
Facebook < Wii Browser. seriously, Wii has a free browser. you can use Facebook as well as the greater majority of the rest of the internet.
DVD - doesn't matter to mass users as everyone already has DVD player or could buy one for <$30.
downloadble movies - again not important as it is a very small portion of users, plus may come to Wii soon anyways.
HD - not important to mass of users, only techies and graphicx whores, basically Wii's capabilites are good enough for mass of players.
Live > Wii online play, yet majority of Wii's appeal is inhouse coop play, not online anyways.

Basically, the Wii is comparable or better in some areas and in the others where it is lacking it creates unique value in its controller and specific games.

Wii Sports
WSR
Wii Fit
Mario Kart
EA Active
Monster Hunter 3
<Nintendo Games>

All create value to a greater market than the endless supply of great shooters on 360. 360 and PS3 keep adding value to one specific core crowd, while Wii does far better on the rest of the groups, which are larger. Personally, I am looking forward to the continued growth of more core centric games on Wii.

A price cut helps you gain marketshare while at best keep profits at par. Increase value can not only increase sales and marketshare, but will also always increase profits as long as the change to increase value is for profit as well.

So, This year Nintendo will not decrease price until after WSR, NSMBWii, Wii Fit +, and MH3 are out and have proven to not increase sales back to last years levels. Then they will feel that the value cannot be increased without decreasing price.

MS and Sony are doing the same thing and the market has already told them that price reduction in required to meet levels where the mass considers its price equal to its value.

Wii may not be at that point yet.



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NINTENDO

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