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Of course you would think that =P you are really quite conservative and he was the liberal lion.

But I'd be surprised if you would disagree that he was politically very skillful and influential.



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Rath said:
Of course you would think that =P you are really quite conservative and he was the liberal lion.

But I'd be surprised if you would disagree that he was politically very skillful and influential.

I am not conservative. I am for your liberties. I am sure many conservatives on this site would not like you grouping me with them. My pro choice, legalizing drugs, and pro rights that favor same sex partners way of thinking would make them throw me out of there party.

As for Senator Kennedy being very skillful and influential, I agree with you. I also think everything he did in office, he did for the betterment of Americans. I just think he did all the wrong things, even if it was for all the right reasons.

I think the same of Obama. He cares deeply for the people of the US, and sadly, he is doing the compete wrong thing in trying to help them.



Fiscally conservative and a libertarian then?

But anyway, all I was trying to say is that your views and his don't line up, which makes it unsurprising that you don't like his views.



TheRealMafoo said:
Kasz216 said:

  He'd probably list this as the second biggest mistake he's made.  (First was not supporting the Nixon plan... which given his history is odd... but hey he said it was his number 1 regret.)

I would hope his #1 regret would be killing the girl he took from a party to make out with, back in 1969. I truly believe it was an accident, but still would list #1 on my list of regrets. 

Yeah.  That's why I thought it was odd and all.  But that's what he said his number 1 regret was.  Hope he just meant politcally.



Oh... and so people don't think I'm making it up.

"Kennedy said that was his biggest regret," Felzenberger told me today, "because he had a Republican president willing to dance with him."

https://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/08/kennedy-and-health-care-then-and-now

I originally heard it on something else... though it's a comfirmation... if not poorly written blog article.



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It's kind of sad how much the DNC has being using Teddy so quickly after his death.

Kind of reminds me of Weekend at Burnie's..only this is weekend at Teddy's. They propped up his still warm body like they would a visual aid to help them pass the healthcare bill. Really its pretty damn sick, they could at least let the family mourn him and bury him first.

This is pretty much politics at its worst - that they can't find something else to do for a week to give the family a chance to grieve without exploiting his death is really just pathetic. This is a politician thing in general of course, I have no doubt the Republicans would do the same damn thing if the situation was reversed.

Just goes to show how disconnected from reality politicians have become. I really hope there is a backlash for this..but the media seems to be going along with it so I doubt it.

You'd really have to be a complete ideologue not to see something wrong with this. Is one week really that long to wait? Apparently it was, because they didn't even wait 7 hours, much less 7 days.



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Sqrl said:
It's kind of sad how much the DNC has being using Teddy so quickly after his death.

Kind of reminds me of Weekend at Burnie's..only this is weekend at Teddy's. They propped up his still warm body like they would a visual aid to help them pass the healthcare bill. Really its pretty damn sick, they could at least let the family mourn him and bury him first.

This is pretty much politics at its worst - that they can't find something else to do for a week to give the family a chance to grieve without exploiting his death is really just pathetic. This is a politician thing in general of course, I have no doubt the Republicans would do the same damn thing if the situation was reversed.

Just goes to show how disconnected from reality politicians have become. I really hope there is a backlash for this..but the media seems to be going along with it so I doubt it.

You'd really have to be a complete ideologue not to see something wrong with this. Is one week really that long to wait? Apparently it was, because they didn't even wait 7 hours, much less 7 days.

It doesn't surprise me at all that they would do anything and everything to get it passed.



I heard about this yesterday, it's truly very sad, he was a good man and whether you agree with his politics or not I think he was a well respected man. I mean he got an honorary knighthood from the Queen, which must speak in volumes to his character, Americans generally don't get knighthoods.

On a side note, I never heard of this girl thing from 1969.



highwaystar101 said:
I heard about this yesterday, it's truly very sad, he was a good man and whether you agree with his politics or not I think he was a well respected man. I mean he got an honorary knighthood from the Queen, which must speak in volumes to his character, Americans generally don't get knighthoods.

On a side note, I never heard of this girl thing from 1969.

There isn't much to it.  He was driving drunk.   Went off a bridge and left a girl to drown because of his own ambitions.

He instead called a bunch of his personal aides about it... and didn't cop to it until her body and the car were found the next morning.

When he realized he couldn't cover up his involvement he turned himself in to the authroties.

 

 



Kasz216 said:
highwaystar101 said:
I heard about this yesterday, it's truly very sad, he was a good man and whether you agree with his politics or not I think he was a well respected man. I mean he got an honorary knighthood from the Queen, which must speak in volumes to his character, Americans generally don't get knighthoods.

On a side note, I never heard of this girl thing from 1969.

There isn't much to it.  He was driving drunk.   Went off a bridge and left a girl to drown because of his own ambitions.

He instead called a bunch of his personal aides about it... and didn't cop to it until her body and the car were found the next morning.

When he realized he couldn't cover up his involvement he turned himself in to the authroties.

 

 

I wonder what his punishment was.